Help with Roses.

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  1. jason2

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    Hiya every one.

    Would like abit of help please with my roses. i havnt really been into gardening for long and i have got three small rose bushes which iv having abit of trouble with.
    first is black spot and i was told to put a very very small amount of jays fluid in a watering can and use this on them. well now they dont look very good and the leaves are starting to drop off. they are still flowering but just look not so good now so what can i use to pick them back up and what to kill the black spot.

    Also i have just had three new rose plants a blue moon, alexandra and a chandos beauty.
    would it be a good idea to keep these away from the other three?
    Any help on or tips on how to look after roses would be very greatfull as im new to this and would like to save the three thats not so good and look after all of them abit better.

    thank you.
     
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    I'm not sure about putting the Jeyes fluid in with the water:stirpot: but I've seen it used as a soil steriliser in the past... anyhoo black spot is a fungal disease which usually once you have is a pain to get rid of mostly people spray preemptively after spring pruning and again after the leaves a start to unfold.

    What I would do is:

    Step 1. Wait until Autumn and strip the plants of any infected leaves on and around the plant including on the ground and incinerate them.

    Step 2. In Spring Give the roses a good hard pruning to encourage new vigorous growth and also apply a nice thick mulch

    Step 3. Spray the plants with a fungicide immediately after the spring pruning and then again once the leaves start to appear

    Step 4. Hope for the best!

    You can try and keep your new roses away from the old infected ones but chances are unless your garden is huge or the rose cultivars are bred to be resistant then they will become infected. Try and keep your tools clean (secateurs, knives, pruning saw) by sterilising them regularly and every time you move from one rose to another
     
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      thanx for that.

      one of the rose bushes looks about as if its had it now, the other two not bad and new growth is starting.
      the three new ones are pretty much out of the way( i hope lol )

      to be honest i didnt really look after them as well as i should of but its all abit new to me keeping and looking after roses.

      i have got this week some roseclear ultra gun and iv sprayed all roses with it and the three new ones as soon as i planted them i sprayed them.
      i also got toprose feed to try and keep them strong and healthy as poss.

      hopefully im doing things right now lol and thanx again for the information.

      ps the rose bush i think is on its way out, would it be best to dig it up and burn it?.
       
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      Treat with Roseclear 3. Jeyes shouldn`t be used as a pesticide, that is a big no no with the Brussels Bunglers.:dbgrtmb:
       
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        is their different types of roseclear? i have the roseclear ultra gun, would this be the same as roseclear 3.
         
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        Rose Clear Ultra replaces Rose Clear 3. The crowd in Brussels banned Rose Clear 3 - as no doubt they will ban Ultra after a year or two. Apparently the insecticide ingredient Bifethrin was the offending part of Rose Clear 3.

        The fungicide ingredient of Rose Clear 3 is Myclobutanil which is systemic and (from experience) is highly effective at combating blackspot

        In Ultra the systemic fungicide is Triticonazole which is stated in the literature as longer lasting than Myclobutanil. As yet, I have no experience as to how effective it is.
         
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        just a update on my roses. one of them i dug up it wasnt doing well at all and to be honest i think it was dead but the other two are doing brill.
        iv put some manure around them and gave them some toprose feed afew week back. sprayed them with some roseclear.
        and now i have new growth coming all over them and they are looking 100% better.

        i must be doing some thing right :-)
         
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        Well done, Jason, stick with it and everything will come up roses.:thumbsup::D:heehee:
         
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        Thank you,,,,im quite happy now lol :-)
         
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        overgrown rose bush

        while on the subject of roses, mine has been a bit neglected and is overgrown, is it too late in the year to prune it? if so when should i prune it?

        :help:
         
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        Hi Mike, you forgot to mention what type of rose it is, and has it flowered yet????:scratch::D
         
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        Hi every one.

        Thought i would post afew photos of the small rose bushes i was having trouble with abit back. these two didnt have one leaf on them at all and was looking pretty bad at one stage and with abit of looking after and feeding them plus spraying them, both have come on a treat now.
        the photos are not the best , sorry.
         

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        speaking of which:

        at one of the gardens I work at, a rambing rose that was cut down previously, and which I had been cutting down for 2 years re-appeared approx 1 yr ago ... I decided to leave it and train it up a large tree which is directly behing it

        in the last year, it has grown very well, has half filled the tree, but has not produced any flowers this year? ... How long before they produce? ...

        I don't know what type it is, as it's just leaves at this stage and grows very vigourously

        I don't want to hijack the thread, but I feel the answer does not need a thread of it's own
         
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        Hi there *dim*

        I would have thought you should get some flowers next summer. If your rose is a rambler, the chances are that it only produces one flush of flowers a year. Few ramblers are repeat flowering, so you've probably missed the boat this year. Hopefully it should be a mass of flowers around midsummer next year, after which you can give it a good haircut without losing anything, as in all probability it won't produce any more blooms.
         
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