sycamore???

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  1. shopgirl771

    shopgirl771 Apprentice Gardener

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    hi. i have what im told are several sycamores growing up the side border of my garden. im not even sure they are sycamores as i thought sycamores were trees but these are growing branches at ground level and are more like bushes???!!!:what:. They have obviously seeded there and were not deliberately planted.

    anyway ive tried cutting back as much as possible but the branches/shoots just seem to have gone berserk now and i think ive made them worse.

    short of getting a chain saw out and lobbing the lot down is there anything else i can do to get rid of these or at least keep them under control?

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    Hi Any chance of a photo


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    Its definitely a sycamore.
    It will have a deep tap root by now.

    Nuke it from orbit.
     
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      'The only way to be sure' !

      The unfortunate thing is that it's true. The plant is a brute so about your only options are repeated sprays with brushwood killer or digging it out. I suppose dynamite could work too...
       
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        Loofah, I like how you think.
         
      • Plant Potty

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        My grandad used to use copper nails to kill weed trees, hammer a ring of nails all the way around about an inch apart, leave the heads just proud so you can retrieve your expensive nails when the trees deffo dead, you should still be able to get them in a good iron mungers, if not cut 1" lengths copper water pipe and hammer them in instead.

        there aint nothing you cant kill with the correct sized hammer/tapometer:D

        Good luck.

        Plant Potty.:)
         
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        • IDigPerfectSquareHoles

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          Well you could use kerosene or salt (or both), but VERY environmentally unfriendly and you won't be able to plant anything in the area for YEARS. Unless you then replace all the topsoil, too.

          A much safer way is to strip the bark off the trunks, but in your case (if they've gone all bushy) that'll be time-consuming. To kill a mature tree, you'd need to strip a 20 cm wide band at the height of a meter-meter and a half, making sure it goes all the way around the trunk. This will expose the layer that conveys water and the tree will dry up. On your bushy growth i think you'd need to strip all major trunks/stems, maybe at just above soil level? And because they aren't proper thick trunks you'd probably get away with narrower bands, say maybe even 5-10 cm?
           
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            or actually, chopping them all down to ground level and treating the stumps with undiluted Roundup might work, only you'd need to reapply a few times, other folks might know exactly how often
             
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              • Plant Potty

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                I would'nt assume that coz you are male a chemical wont effect your children, some of the Late n Great Daddy Pottys crazy work in his lab is , thats me the cheeky sods are talking about:loll:the news report is inaccurate, the press dont understand the facts, so do as you see fit with your weed killers, just dont spray it near me coz a punch in the face often offends:WINK1:

                oh and my daughter Jasmine was born brain damaged on her speach centre and is in special eds, hence I'm gardening on carers allowance, tho I think thats more related to daddy Potty spraying the whole of the uk with zinc cadnium sulphide.:mad:

                Plant Potty.:) aka Phil Southey.
                 
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                  Wow Melinda,
                  thanks for that! I didn't know, sorry.
                  I personally prefer to use things that are kid/environment/pet/wildlife friendly, i've got a young child myself so have to take extra care. But because Roundup is so widely used.. been on the market for ages... one would assume it's OK to use in a desperate situation!

                  Slightly off topic, but how about this report Dishwashers harbour 'killer bugs' - Telegraph? I never even used the dishwasher before I had a baby because it's such a waste of power and water. We inherited ours from the previous owners of our house but I really only started using it from time to time because of lack of time with the kid. After reading this article I'm back to washing up tho, thank you very much! :mad:
                   
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                  ^^^ IDSH- I think I differ strongly from the prevailing opinion on this board.
                  You'll have to do the reading on glyphosate and make up your own mind. :) The Earth Open Source report on it is very easy to follow- you can find it via the Huffingtonpost page I linked to earlier.


                  Hi Phil, Thanks for your post and the video. Id read about the Porton Down project but never come across anyone even indirectly affected.

                  Im trying to take your post all in really. What an awful lot to be dealing with. How is Jasmine?

                  Sending you a PM.
                   
                • Plant Potty

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                  lmao well I bet my answer messed your head:loll:

                  Jasmine is fine:), a delight to the planet and pleasure to all that meet her, her brain damage is left frontal lobe (speech center (but thats no excuse not to have good manners so I'm on her case like she does'nt have issues)) you would work that out on meeting her, well that something was wrong anyway, but I'd trust her with my life, she's a good kid:cool:

                  my post was'nt to draw attention to the germwarfare trials of the 60's~to date, Porton and I have written at great length on the subject to each other, I know what they/daddy Potty was doing, and they know that I know that, I dont want all of his work in public domian (they wrote last year for signed consent to release more video of him) coz there's some nasty peeps around that could use it for ill reason, my post was just a warning that you posted about pregnant females n I offer up some proof that males may be at risk too:WINK1: I dont want peeps to be using chemicals that they think their gender will protect them from, coz I truely dont think thats true:DOH:

                  Kind Regards, Plant Potty.:)
                   
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                  Anyway lets get back on the topic of killing a problem tree, I cut my back hedge in Feb for the first time in near ten years, yes yes I know thats silly but thats the curve ball I was batting, the hedge was huge maybe 20 feet, but I found some problem trees while doing so, I left them coz there was no point in cutting them coz I knew they'd just come back on a mission, the treetrunkks are in the middle of the swing.....

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                  this is the same trees today.....
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                  The biggest is about 5~6 inches at the base, I want them gone, I'm gonna hit them with home made stuff (but no nukes, sorry) and see how that works, I think there are four trunks so plenty of room to play, I'm deffo gonna do one with copper in the core, has anyone used H2O2 (Hydrogen Peroxide) on them internally? I'm deffo trying that on one:heehee: I recon it'll be instant on the top of the tree but maybe not get the roots:loll:

                  Plant Potty.:)
                   
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