Green House question

Discussion in 'Greenhouse Growing' started by luke_arnold, Aug 11, 2011.

  1. ARMANDII

    ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

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    Thanks Barnaby, that means I can still call it "plastic":D:thumbsup::heehee::heehee::hapfeet:
     
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      hehehe
      Glad I missed the 'discussion' on this thread until all of the arguments had been sorted out
      Yes .. here in Ireland we seem to take the brunt of the storms ... have you seen what the three or so days in May? I think it was, did to my gateway? Have a look at the two pitch pine posts simply broken off at the base
      Because up here where I live is subjected to strong winds, gales, storms etc quite regularly, I bought a Hartley greenhouse (built to last better than, say, an Eden).
      The decision was a good one, and it is now over 30 years old and still doing a good job
      Following what has been said here, I am no longer going to move to the Isle of Mann for tax purposes :)
       

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      Wondered where you were, Whis4ey:D:scratch: Standing on the sidlelines watching it all go on:heehee:

      I'm very grateful to Ireland because, without it shielding our coast as it does, we in Cheshire and Wales would get what you get and have a completely different climate, i.e. Winder and Wetter..:hapfeet:

      If people didn't believe that strength of winds before then taking a look at your pics might just convince them as to how better off we are. The Hartley Greenhouse costs a small fortune today for a reasonable sized one. Sounds to me that you've had your moneys worth out of yours:D
       
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      Thanks to everyone who has supported me on this thread. :thumbsup:

      Whis4ey.........you wouldn't gain anything now regarding the tax on the island. The English government and Gordon Brown put pay to that last year! Stitched the island up good and proper! But that's a whole different thread. :)

      Dai, I beg to differ on this subject and will take it no further. Oh! and thanks for the apology. :)
       
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        pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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        Firstly I'd like to say to Dai that 10mm twinwall polycarb is not really conservatory standard.
        Most use triple wall stuff on the roof.

        But the other point I'd like to make,( bearing in mind this has not much to do with the original post), polycarb should be OK to use even in windy locations.
        Weight in my opinion has little to do with how the glazing stays put in in a greenhouse, its the fact that ordinary ali greenhouses are designed to take the wind from the outside, let the wind into the house and it will explode, whatever the glazing material.

        If the wind is blowing against the glazing clips, nothing will stay in place, even safety glass.
        The type that use a capping rather than the clips will always be stronger, but its the method of fixing rather than the type of glazing material that is likely to make a difference

        Having said that 6mm polycarb does seem a bit puny.
         
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        Like I have said before, when you join Gardeners Corner you get "heducafied":D Thanks for the info, Pete. We learn every day.:hapfeet::thumbsup:
         
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        That is the major benefit of the Hartley
        That and the shape of the greenhouse which 'deflects' the wind better than a rectangular structure
        And the glass has plastic around the edges for further protection
        Mine has normal fairly light glass and I have had very few problems even though we have even had a tornado here (1998 when part of the roof of the house came off)
        What happened then was that the wind blew open the garage door, got into the building and then lifted the roof off the garage and part of the house (flat roof). It took a lot of money and 3 months to replace the roof with a proper pitched roof with every single tile nailed :) (the normal is only to fix every 2 or 3 rows)
        The moral of the story is to always do the best you can afford
         

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        :oopss: Whis4key, that doesn't look good.:rolleyespink::what:
         
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        Thanks for getting involved

        Many Thanks for the replys guys and girls.

        Been away in Germany till today and i was a little shocked to see 52 replies to my simple question!

        I have taken the feedback on board and will save the green house.....

        As for my decision on glass or plastic, i will be going down the glass route.

        Many Thanks for the replies everybody, when this is done i shall post an other picture of the finished project....

        Rant over, thread closed!:dbgrtmb:
         
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        Update of progress

        Hello all,

        Started this thread a while ago and finally had a weekend free and was able to get stuck in! Thought i would post some pics of my progress for you. What do you think? I also found a greenhouse heater, i cleaned it down and may be worth restoring for use?

        Luke
         

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        You've made a great start there Luke . would be good if you could get the replacement glass in before the winter sets in ..

        Dave
         
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        I am meassuring up this week and ringing around for a good price.

        What normally going on the floor in a green house? at the moment the middle of the house has a concrete pathway but then either side of this is mud.

        Also is it advisable to disinfect this green house inside?

        Luke
         
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        Glass isn't as cheap as it used to be so try not to wince too much at the quotes;)

        Keep the floor as is although replace some of the earth as you don't know what diseases previous plants may have had. I went for a solid concrete base for my greenhouse and wish I'd gone for soil for the extra depth.

        An unused greenhouse open to the elements for years? Yes, definitely disinfect.
         
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          Next Question for Greenhouse

          I have now ordered my glass and by next weekend it should be water tight.

          How do i disinfect? what product do i use?

          How deep should i dig down to replace the soil?

          What sort of soil do i replace it with?

          Thanks

          Luke
           
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          Lots of people swear by jeyes fluid but i can't stand the stuff as it smell like the gents toilet at a massage parlour. Use hot soapy water with a scrubbing brush to shift most of the grime then wash down with any disinfectant.

          To be safe I'd dig a spit down (spade blade) replace with compost and / or topsoil. Actually scratch that last - if you can get it then rotted manure with topsoil!
           
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