Another two ID from me (not cacti this time)

First of all the first picture below, it reminds me of a Bindweed type, but of course Bindweeds are herbaceous. This vine is evergreen, not sure if it produces flowers, or even if it's not just a weed full stop.




Second one looks like a mix between Brassica and Bergenia - not sure what it is, I assume it's a type of Brassica though I might be wrong - here's two aspects..




Thanks in advance..

 

I think Ive found the first one - Aristolochia elegans, I need pinching with that one, but it's the only one that fits.

 

It certainly looks like the correct leaves for Aristolochia.............

Apart from the stem, the second looks like leaf beet spinach.

 

The second one is most certainly a bergenia. You will have to wait for it to flower to determine what variety it could be.

 

Is it normal for Begenia to grow stems such as shown above? The only Bergenia I'm familar with really is Bergenia cordifolia because it's in everyones gardens, but they are ground plants, they don't show stems. However if there is a Bergenia that has a trunking form, I'm definitely interested!

 

Yes it's definately normal as my bergenia looks exactly the same, it will have pink flowers but I'm not sure of which one mine is!

 

Interesting, they remind me a little of the plant types you get in Madeira, I've always had it down as a weed, because it likes to self seed sometimes.

 

I agree, the second one is definitely Bergenia, AKA Elephants Ears.

 

My first thought was Birthwort for the first one.

 

I've never seen it in flower (the Aristolochia), at first I thought A. clemititis but the leaves aren't quite the same (plus this vine is evergreen rather than deciduous), the leaves closely match A. elegans, but to be honest there are many Aristolochias, and just asking I doubt the gardens would know to be fair.