cucumber variety suggestions and growing

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  1. Cambridge Gardener

    Cambridge Gardener Apprentice Gardener

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    can anyone recommend a reliable greenhouse variety ? I've tried a range in the last few years, but often get bitter ones. I don't necessarily get round to removing male flowers in time, and the F1 bitter free sorts aren't necessarily so I've found.

    I used to grow Telegraph, bitter free for years, but then had a year when most of the cucs were bitter, so started trying other varieties.

    I tend to 'let the plants get on with it' once established, and just damp down with lots of water to keep the spider mite down. I have had plants fairly quickly slump and die, (so reduce my total plants from 3 to 1), but managed to dig up and destroy the plants before they were all wiped out. Is this an indicator that I should dig out and replace the border soil in my green house ?

    Many thanks for any tips
     
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    I would never consider growing anything other than an F1 all female cucmber plant they are so much less hassle than the old open pollinated Telegraph types. I've grown Socrates F1 which is a mini cuc and Picolino, which is only 69p for 4 seeds from T&M right now:
    Cucumber 'Picolino' F1 Hybrid (Organic) - Salad Seeds - Thompson & Morgan

    The main thing is you must keep picking them once they start coming, if you let the fruit mature the plant gives up.
    I would certainly change the border soil in your greenhouse, I change mine every year to avoid the build up of pests and diseases.
    When watering newly planted cucumbers avoid splashing the stem or leaves otherwise it encourages stem rot. It is very difficult to avoid stem rot and I usually lose one or two plants especially in poorer growing years. Once they establish themselves the mature plants rarely fail though.
     
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      Apple Cucumbers are a bit different.
      They are also sweet and quickly disappear - if you let interlopers get access to your greenhouse.
      They seem easy to grow and the seeds are more easily accessible these days.
       
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      I grew Piccolino F1 for the first time last year in the conservatory and they went mental.Lots of fruit and finally finished them in early December.Unfortunately they were £3.69 for 4 seeds so the T@M deal looks very good especially if combined with one of their £5 vouchers.
       
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      Thanks JWK, yes maybe I've been too generous with splashing water around in the early days. Will try an all female variety again.
       
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      "Apple Cucumbers are a bit different.".
      I've seen these in magazines, but been put off, 'cos they look like cucs that are too mature (yellow skin). YOu're the first person I've heard of who has grown them. Greenhouse space is so valuable that I've been wary of just trying odd looking things like this, thanks for the tip.
       
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      CG; the other thing with cucumbers is that they don't make good companions to tomatoes in a greenhouse. Cucumbers like a bit of shade and lots of humidity whereas tomatoes like it sunny, dry and airy. If you want to grow them together in the same greenhouse it's best to section them off with a plastic sheet, with the tomatoes on the sunny side with the door/vents.
       
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      Rather than "mini" cucumbers, can you suggest one or more F1's which are smooth skinned. Last year's looked terrific but had tough and prickly skins. I prefer ones that don't need peeling - the sort you get in (winces) supermarkets?
       
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      we were given a cucumber plant by my aunt last year and it was thick skinned and thorny

      Father in law recomended Telegraph but im worried about getting bitter cue`s , if I remove male flowers will this stop this ? if so how do I tell dfemale and male ones apart
       
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      Picolino I recommended in post #2 is a salad type, no prickles or tough skin :thumbsup:
       
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      Don't grow old fashioned Telegraph whatever you do, you'll never stop them getting bitter at some stage of the growing season. Move with the times and get an F1 all female plant - they are trouble free once established. :dbgrtmb:
       
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      Hiya John. Could you expand on this a little? Like, how much do you take out, and what do you replace it with? :thumb:
       
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      Freddy, I dig down a spades depth, to make sure all the root material comes out. It gets chucked onto one of my veg beds, usually where my runner beans are going to go. I replace it with 50% 'fresh' soil from another veg bed, minding the rotation rules (i.e. not using an area that grew marrows as they are the same family as cucumbers). The other 50% is cheap compost such as the contents of new grow bags.

      I do the same for my greenhouse tomato borders, just making sure the new 'fresh' soil hasn't grown potatoes in the last couple of years or so.

      :dbgrtmb:
       
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        Excellent John, thanks for that. BTW, I was thinking Tomatoes anyway :)
         
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