Raised beds

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  1. Tropical_Gaz

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    I am planning on building a series of raised beds from concrete blocks which will the be rendered.

    They will be up to 3 foot tall (4 standard blocks high). In terms of fountations, how deep, and would you add pillars into the construction to help provide support?

    Also with rendering, anything in particular I should be thinking about to make sure the render doesnt blow.
     
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    Hi TG, the foundation depth will depend on your soil conditions, you want to go down at least one block depth (250mm) - basically you want to get past the organic soil level so the foundations sit on top of the subsoil. If your soil type is clay or sand you may need to go a little deeper. I assume you will use 100mm wide blocks, these will be OK up to 4 rows high as a single skin, you could bang in some rebar into the inside of the corners to provide more stability. There is a limit on length of run of a single skin wall before you need to use pillars, I can't remember offhand what that is, I'm sure for a small run like a raised bed - say 10ft long you won't need pillars.

    It will pay to line the inner side with plastic to prevent moisture being drawn out of the blocks, also it stops the block wall from getting damp and will help stop the frost getting behind the render and blowing it off. Make sure that the render stops 3 or 4 inches above the soil level (you need exterior grade 'stop beading' along the bottom, which allows the water to drip off the render without getting into the wall). It would be best to have a weatherproof wall topping (coping stones) to throw off water, but most people don't bother with this and may look a little odd on raised beds.

    Good luck - and let us know how it goes. :thumb:
     
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    Hi John, thanks for the reply. Yes I'm going o be using standard 100x225x440 blocks, the intention is to use a coping stone.

    The whole area is being tied in with a raised koi pond, (which will be double thickness on the blocks) so I want the coping stone to tie in with what I use on the pond. I hadn't consider lining the insides, that does make sense. I was also planning on adding small seep holes periodically to allow water to escape (probably just gaps in the mortar or maybe small lengths of 1" pipe.

    I also hadn't thought about stop beading, my concern is that it wouldn't look that great to see the bottom of the blocks, is there an easy way to hide the bottom part, in one section there will be a deck, so that makes it a little easier.

    I will need to add some pillars regardless of the walls needing them in a couple of places, due to wanting to use the walls to be the base for a pergola over the top of a seating area, so these were going to be added in the places i needed them, but I don't want the rest of the wall to be weak.

    The longest length is likely to be getting on for 7m, (that's roughly 23feet i think) so I guess at least a couple of pillars would be sensible along this length plus maybe reinforced corners?
     
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    7 metres is a long way to walk to reach the othe side
     
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    It sounds sensible to add seepage holes. I'm not sure what else you can do about the stop beading, its not essential as it is really intended for house walls that have a damp proof course. Garden walls of this size rarely have a damp proof added. The danger of taking the render down to the ground level is that it will draw moisture up all the time (but so will the concrete blocks anyway) so its not a great risk rendering as close to the ground level as possible.

    7m is quite a long run and in my opinion would be unstable, 2 or 3 piers would help along with the reinforced corners.
     
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    The bed will be quite long and up against a new fence (this will use concrete posts). The depth will vary from 3m down to about 2.

    I have a sketch of the planned layout, so will add that later to explain better what I'm aiming to achieve.
     
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