citrus trees

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  1. Gardenerinmoz

    Gardenerinmoz Apprentice Gardener

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    Hello!

    I have about 6 citrus trees (lemon, orange, grapefruit, and tangerine) that I would like to transplant. The tallest is about 2 meters tall (about 6 feet), and i think they are about 3 years old. What I want to know, are they still transplantable at that age and size? :dunno:
    would love any feedback, i am afraid my trees feel like :runforhills: when they see me!

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    Isaac
     
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    Hi Isaac , 3 years old?? that sound strange as citrus are really slow grower ,unless you are living in a hot country, but anyway , a friend of mine sold his house and try to take is citrus trees with him and they all die , plus usually they should start to flowering soon , that is a really big risk to disturb the plant now , If I`m not wrong and say again if I`m not wrong you can only move the plant in January /february when the plant is resting from the fruits , wich usually will take between 3 up to 9 months to ripen .
     
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      Thanks, Sal! Yes, I leave in a hot climate, really HOT! Mozambique has a tropical climate, so that explains their size at that age.
      I think I will leave them be, as its not a necessity to move them, just a preference. They will still be on the property we are renting, i had just thought about moving them to another property my dad is going to do an agricultural project on. But I'll plant new ones there!!:thumbsup: And actually since we are in the southern hemisphere, we have opposite seasons. :)
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      My family was growing (and still do it) oranges for generation back in Sicily and I remember that my grandfather have never moved a plant , but always replaced with a seedling.....I think the fact that you live in the south hemisphere , the fruit will still grow from October up to December , the difference will be that the colour of the fruit will stay green , orange , lemon and mandarine will only change color with the cold...
      If you wishing to start an agricultural project , you should learn how to crafting the citrus , as you can change the fruit with the market request .
      My family was producing tarocco red oranges , but they only last 1 month so they craft all the trees to white orange and scirea oranges as they last 6 months , but they are not as tasty as the tarocco (strawberry taste) .....same thing with the lemon at the moment they are producing red lemon .
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      tarocco orange.
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      that`s a red edible lemon , really acid but sweet
       
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        How interesting! thank you for all this info!

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        A red Lemon!!, what was grafted on to what to produce that Sal?:what:
         
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        The red lemon is a craft of red orange on the lemon tree , unfortunatly as my uncle was telling me , they initially craft it for commercial use , but appear to have take the same problem of the red orange and the red lemon as to be eat in no more then 3 weeks , so at the moment more then the lemon in shop you can only find the plant in the shop ...apparently as the carecteristic of the red orange , the red lemon will appear at xmas time and it`s sold more of alternative to xmas tree......that appen in South Italy .
         
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        Surely Sal, if you graft lemon onto orange you just get lemons? yellow ones.

        Is "red lemon" a particular variety?
         
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        I know the red orange, Tarocco is true ... but I don't believe the lemon ... there is that very pic on the net with no details ... :dunno:

        By the way, I know it's the wrong time of the year, but I have planted some red Peach stones ... two in the shells and one unshelled ...

        Pete, how did yours do .. or anyone else who had Sis's stones .... ?
         
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        basicaly the commercial seedless red sicilian orange is a craft of
        bitter orange (tree)+ red orange (innest)= tarocco orange
        the red orange is a true species look like the spanish red ruby but is more red and not sold in shop.
        the red lemon is
        lemon (tree) + red orange (innest)
        like this
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          Sal.
          If I graft a clementine onto poncirus I get clementines.
          If I graft a lemon onto poncirus I get a lemon.
          If I graft a grapefruit onto poncirus I get grapefruit.

          What I'm saying is how does this work?
           
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          Victoria, I have two of the red peach trees just going into bud burst.
          Hoping I can keep leaf curl under control this year.
           
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            :lunapic 130165696578242 5:, Pete ...do you know how many time my grandfather try to teach me how to do it......do you really think I was listen to him at the time......I will ask my uncle , he actually is the only one that still working in the oranges and most of is work is crafting.
            But if i remember right it was something to do with completly cutting the plant down , what you have may done is just crafting part of the plant.
            Plus when I say bitter orange I don`t mean the poncirus , but it`s a complete different plant , the fruit it`s actually really big with a really bitter taste.
            Don`t know when but in case I will manage to go there in summer I will ask all the question and try to get seeds .
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            bitter orange , Citrus aurantium
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            and this is how they craft .
             
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            OK, Sal, Seville Orange, (bitter orange). The rootstock.

            But you still only get a plant which is the same as the one the the scion was taken from.The top growth.

            That is the reason you graft, to maintain a variety, if it changed once grafted there would be no point.

            it wont come true from seed.
             
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            No Pete it`s not the seville or poncirus, the bitter orange in not edible is more of a wild variety almost seedless, no expert but there are 2 main crafting , the hybrid fruit and the variety fruit.
            you can produce orange from a lemon plant ..why do it ? the bitter orange is used as base because it`s one of the hardy tree down there so you will have a frost or draugh tollerant plant or simple stronger to diseases.
            Or you can mix the 2 plants like red orange , red lemon and who know a red mandarin .,
            I remember many time , my GD was cutting many innest because of the chimeras , wich look great but consider a disease in the market.
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