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  1. lazydog

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    I know for fact this wont be the first summer I have had to fill the butts up with a hose pipe,lucky there is no ban here yet.
     
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    We have rain..... my butts are full to brimming now!!
     
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      rain here too all my butts are full to overflow :yahoo:
       
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        I have two large water butts taking rain water off my Green House and they are near to bursting. I am toying with the idea of another two connected to the drain pipe at the rear of the house. I would love to use the garage roof but as it's flat it doesn't lend itself to that purpose..........unless anyone has ideas??:biggrin:
         
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        Don't you start panic buying Armandii:heehee:
         
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          jane that is what i have done
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          i did it for two reasons the cost of water butts and i got fed up of the plastic splitting when the water froze in the butts which doesnt happen with the bins the ice simply rises, i have 2 water butts and 9 bins around the garden all of these have filled up with todays down pour :yahoo:
           
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            Average house roof area in the UK is, I think, 30 sq.m. That's handy as there are (roughly) 30 days in a month ... so:

            10mm rainfall on 30 sq.m. is 300 Litres, 30 days in a month, so 10 Litres per day, and 10 Litres is approx one watering can full.

            So for each 10 mm of rainfall in a month you get 10 Litres per day, or one watering can full, on average

            East Anglia is regarded as pretty dry, but from Apr-Sep we get 40-50mm per month - so 4 - 5 cans-per-day. Trouble is, sometimes we don't get any for a month.

            If that is enough water [for the average sized garden, with an average sized roof!!] then all that is needed is the ability to store about a month's worth to allow for 4 weeks without rain, so that would be 300 Litres of storage for every 10mm of rainfall. Most of the country gets 40 - 60mm per month (and those parts that get more aren't going to need any watering!), so to catch all the Summer rain it needs between 1,200 - 1,800 litres of storage

            On that basis the water butts will fill "often enough" during the summer not to run out :blue thumb:

            If that's not enough then storage would need to be increased to store from Winter to use in the Summer too.

            Average Monthly Rainfall figures available here:
            http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/averages/19712000/index.html

            Rainfall figures:

            Birmingham 40-60mm
            Sheffield 55-65mm
            Stratford 50-60mm
            Southampton 40-50mm
            Sevenoaks 45-55mm
             
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              No downpipe you mean? :scratch:
               
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              Sorry, I just noticed this.

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              This is Dr Spock he is was a paediatrician (deceased)

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              This is Mr Spock a character from "Star Trek"
               
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              watergarden have left the forum because...i'm a sad case

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              No, a flat roof really is flat, as shown in the picture below.
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              As you can see, this is not a flat roof, a flat roof is cheaper to construct.
               
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              No, there's a down pipe there alright, Kristen.:heehee: It's just that I recently had new guttering, facias. soffits. and drain pipes put in to replace the old ones and the thought of cutting into a brand new drain pipe makes my eyes [excuse the pun] water.:snork: It's either two extra water butts or those industrial containers we were talking about, so I'll have to have a cogitate:heehee:
               
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              Yeah, believe it or not I do know what a flat roof is.
               
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              I bet you say that to all the boys:snork:
               
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              Rainwater diverter? There are some that slot into the downpipe (yeah, you will have to cut it :blue thumb:) and then have a hose connected. You can route that to the water butt somewhere else (and probably can make that nice and discrete).

              I suspect the further you run the hose, unless you can increase the bore from 1/2" to 3/4" or more, that you won't get much pressure out of the end. If you can run the hose downhill to the "ugly tank" then gravity will be on your side :)

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                Sorry Kristen, its just that you put this smilie :scratch: in your post.
                 

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