Will the Scots raid the Border Counties?

With the proposed minimum price regulations for alcohol in Scotland, we could possibly see a situation develope like the one where the English raid the French supermarkets for alcohol. But with no border controls it could be much worse. I'll bet the supermarkets are planning to stock up already.

 

If that does happen I think England will follow very quickly.
Lets face it, its another way of grabbing more money.

Pity we dont regarding hospital parking, a prescription charges.

 

Yes, Pete-it's odd that isn't it?

 

And University fees!!

 

I'm in danger of hi jacking Larkshalls thread.
But the differences between Scotland, Wales and England since Devolution are a bit worrying.
Especially if you this side of the borders.

 

Was it only the English who went over to France for cheap booze from the UK ?:D

 

I wish the government would stop this business of ripping everybody off for the slightest excuse.

The wife and I, and all our friends, like a drink from time to time. None of us are alcoholics, we don't even get drunk when we drink. We just enjoy a few beers and a chat and a laugh. None of us have ever beat anybody, thrown up on the pavement (ok might have done that when we were younger, but not for years), had to be taken in by the police, lost our jobs through it etc etc. I strongly suspect that the vast majority of drinkers are like this. Certainly in the pubs we go to we don't see people drinking more than their limit. So why should we be penalised for the actions of those that are not responsible?

Surely the better approach would be to find out why people feel their lives are so dull that they have to get themselves hammered at every opportunity.

 

I can remember when if you tried to buy another drink and the landlord thought you had had enough he refused to serve you.

Now days its all clubs, and when they have got everyone so paralytic they cant stand, they throw them out on the streets as if its not their problem.
These clubs should be made responsible for every drunk they chuck out, if any one club is found to be creating them, they should be shut down.

Is "drunk and disorderly" no longer an offence?

 

i think the over indulgence in alcohol started about 20-30 years ago in our younger generations.
i remember the small back street shops, out of the sight of prying eyes were selling alcohol to under age's . the kids were getting their cheap wine's and ciders etc from these shops, no questions asked. this has been going on for years ,so now the kids are adults and many of them are now alcoholics.:(. the scottish parliaments ideas will not work ( they are shutting the gate after the horse has bolted):(. my small local shop NOW is like (fort knox ) the owner has had to rearrange all his stock and put barriers at the alcohol shelving .his selling of alcohol hours have changed. if he is caught selling to under age he will lose his licence and could face 6 months in jail.
and also be fined £5,000 .now why all the heavy stuff on the small shops?????:skp: the government knew this has been going on for years why did they not bring in laws earlier? we are now reaping the havoc of selling to under age kids over the years. alcoholism has increased greatly over the years because it was to easy for the kids to get!!. its not the supermarkets who sell or have sold to under age!. i was in the small shop last week when a young chap in front of me was being served. the assistant asked for I.D. the lad produced the I.D ,the assistant thought it looked a bit dodgy, it was, it was a fake.:( and he was working undercover for the police !! :(

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Hopefully she went with her instinct and didn't sell to him then! I think alot of police departments are doing this now, it's almost a part time job for some kids.

 

You couldn't buy alcohol when I was a kid in the 60s if you were under 18, the laws have been in place for years.

The problem started when the police stopped applying them.

As for the police using kids undercover to try and buy alcohol it all seems a bit petty to me, if they got out there and prosecuted the kids that are drinking on street corners it might have an effect.
They will get booze one way or another, even by using an adult to get it for them.

But I think the main problem is the over18 binge drinker, that does as they like, and sod the rest of us. My town centre is a no go area at night if your not drunk.

The local council calls it the nightime economy, so you can see how they view the subject, puke and p*** up the walls, but money in the pocket.

 

this is so true! and the onus was on the landlord to REFUSE if the customer seemed to be the worse for wear. it made for a much nicer evening out for the other customers. i do not go into the awful areas as you never know what nastiness you are going to encounter


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The trade came about by our excessive taxing of alcohol compared with European Countries. This sort of thing happens when taxation/pricing is excessive in any one country. I spent several years in the Special Constabulary and in the International Police Assn. A German Officer colleague said that as they were near the Dutch border they often shopped in Holland and filled up with petrol there as it was cheaper than in Germany.

 

watched a tv programme this evening it was called (THE BUCKFAST CODE).the programme interviewed some youngsters in (POLMONT OFFENDERS INSTITUTION ). the programme did a survey on the young offenders. the results were that more than 40% of the youngsters interviewed divulged ,they had been drinking BUCKFAST prior to their crimes. some of the youngsters admitted to drinking 2-3 bottles + a couple of cans of beer (IN ONE NIGHT!!!!).
seemingly it is on (YOU TUBE ) youngsters in a competition to drink ,(UNDER 10 SECONDS)
a bottle of BUCKFAST this is the new COOL THING to do.no wonder the youngsters are
(OUT THEIR FACE) and we have all the abuse/vandalism/general mayhem to put up with.
the police are are up to their eyes with drug crimes /gang killings/robbery / muggings ,just to mention a few. the representative for BUCKFAST would not admit it was anything to do with his product!! that incited these instances. his words ,I DRINK IT! if it was that bad i would not drink it!! i cannot act on whims of some people . :(
here are a couple of extracts about BUCKFAST. it is very high on caffeine. there are around 100 mils of caffeine in each bottle .this is a psychoactive stimulant drug which will effect the central nervous system. will cause delusions,hullucinations,psychosis,panic attacks ,insomnia ,just to mention a few. an acute overdose of caffeine is around 300 milligrams , i will leave it to you to work out the arithmetic , having a night on the BUCKY!!.

i remember back in the 60s there was a wine" ELDORADO " and it would blow your head off!!!.


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Pete, I could buy alcohol very easily in the '60's. If you went into an "offie", you just said it was for your parents. (Same for ciggies) I was about 13/14. The difference is, we didn't get blasted on it. We went to our secret dens and drank it there. When we went home we went straight to bed without saying anything (didn't want our parents smelling our breath). I still like a pint (don't think I'm an alcie). It's just that the world has changed. I'm not sure that references to those days have any relevance to today. I don't think it's a problem for the Law, more of a problem for society.