Rose ?.. ID please :)

Hi all as we are slowly getting this jungle sorted. I came across this I think its some type of old rose.The main one stem has bark type covering with thorns & is about 2 3/4 inches thick and a second main stem which is about 2 1/4 thick.The other 4 not as thick as you can see by the pictures.The height of this rose if it is a rose is at least 20 foot in the picture one of the stems is looping over the top of the tree. We have started clearing carefully around this plant as its obviously has some age.The bungalow is about 50 yrs old at least. What I'd like to know is first is it a rose if so how can I find out something about it. Also can I cut it back to about 3 or 4 foot and getting cuttings from it. Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated..

 

oops forgot pics lol.in the third pic that single strand on its own at the top of the trees is this "rose"..

 

Thanks for that ..had not planned to cut it back as yet as wanted advice first.How do you tell the age of a rose..if that is at all poss .Seeing the flower will also be another mission. How on earth I will get to take a picture up that high..I've no idea.

 

Thanks.. I'm really pleased to say..as I'm still cutting/clearing back this section I've found another old rose like this first one.Looks old and is very tall they look the same.I just cant get to it at the moment going to carefully cut/clear my way to it.As don't want to damage it. Can't believe it its special having one very old massive rose but two. This garden is like a pandora's box. The first thing I found was a very old door looks like a very old red castle door about 8/9 foot high and about 4 foot plus wide. Cant wait for the roses to flower I hope they do.

 

OK OK.. Treasure Chest so would two different varieties look the same growth wise..width/height/stems,I ask as its the same as the other. May sound silly but I really don't know. I guess will only know when it flowers.They are planted 15-20 foot apart

 

So looking forward to flower piccies kels. That's the wonderful thing about roses. Whatever the degree of neglect, they still put on their annual display. No wonder the dog rose features in our Royal heritage.

 

I'm like a kid with a new sweet...my "two little gems" have started to flower. There is loads of buds on both of them so will look a treat when all out. Hopefully someone can tell me what this is.I would like to know more about this rose.

Put x4 pics but are not here ?

 

Tried putting pics on just comes out a white square ?

 

Ooooh sorry kels. Not seeing your pics either.
May day,may day - techie help needed on the Rose ID front please

 

I can see your 2 begonia hanging pockets FC. Is that an icicle down in the left hand corner?