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  1. kels

    kels Gardener

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    Hi all I'm back with yet another plant I've found amongst the jungle lol. Again if you could tell me what it is can I pot it or must it be the garden also when can I take cuttings. Its only started to grow a lot more since Ive cut things back.So it seems happier.
     

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  2. Phil A

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    Might be a Sumach Tree.
     
  3. kels

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    Thank you.. yep just looked it up the male picture is the one I have got
     
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    I thought that but leaves are shiny so wasn't sure. But there is one, Rhus copallinum:
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    But a delightful plant, IMO.
     
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    Thanks again " o wise ones" :)
     
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    I'd endorse Silver Surfer's concern about suckers. If you're able to do so I'd make a barrier around it.
     
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    suckers ? what is that...
     
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    Yes, Suckers are a nuisance but they're easy enough to keep in check. When small you can just pull them up.

    Sorry Kels, forgot to say suckers are off shoots which grow up from the roots. Sumac roots are wide-spreading so you might find them quite a distance away. As you didn't plant yours, you may see a bigger Sumac in a neighbouring garden which will give you an idea how far they'll spread. The roots themselves are fairly shallow and I'd advise pulling them up as you come across them, you won't damage your own tree doing that.
     
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    so are these plants that grow around the tree?. Or are they like the rose suckers
     
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    yes they grow from the roots so could be quite a distance from the tree. You could have your own forest in a few years time but don't panic, as I said they are easy to pull up.
     
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    The roots grow sideways and run underground (apart from a taproot) so can spread under flower beds and lawns. Then new shoots suddenly pop up from those roots. If you're vigilant you will spot where they pop up and be able to, carefully, pull them up with a length of root.

    An attractive tree that is worth keeping if you are vigilant.
     
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    Thanks one & all Is there anyway to keep this on one area.What about next to slabs.Will they bring the slabs up or will this make them travel till they find light? I dont know were the main plant is. This plant is about 4 foot with 2/3 main sections in my garden. Will go and have a nose about later :)
     
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    I have weed suppressant fabric immediately under the tree with small size pebbles covering as I like the shape of the bark in winter and didn't want too many stems close together. I don't think it makes any difference regarding how the roots spread though. Don't be put off by the idea of the suckers, they really are very easy to control. You may want to allow a few to grow and pot them up, the tree grows nicely in large pots so they can make very acceptable gifts.

    If you really want to control the roots, I dug a shallow trench around a border where I didn't want any suckers, cut through roots with a lopper and pulled any stray suckers up during that first year and haven't seen any in that bed since. Not sure how long ago that was but I'd guess about 5 years. The spreading young roots are very shallow - less than a spade depth so maybe think about digging a shallow trench around the tree and keeping it clear of any new roots?
     
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