New high speed rail link

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by joolz68, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. ARMANDII

    ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2019
    Messages:
    48,096
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +100,845
    Don't press "Throw a brick" button, though:snork:
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Rosa StormAngel

      Rosa StormAngel Gardener with attitude!

      Joined:
      Jan 22, 2013
      Messages:
      49
      Gender:
      Female
      Occupation:
      Jewellery Designer
      Location:
      Derby, England.
      Ratings:
      +46
      Ah yes Sheal, thanks:) . I hit the agree button, but I wanted an 'agree, agree, agree a lot' button!
       
      • Like Like x 1
      • Rosa StormAngel

        Rosa StormAngel Gardener with attitude!

        Joined:
        Jan 22, 2013
        Messages:
        49
        Gender:
        Female
        Occupation:
        Jewellery Designer
        Location:
        Derby, England.
        Ratings:
        +46
        Damn. I don't have one of those! Do I need more points? Ha ha ha :lunapic 130165696578242 5:
         
        • Like Like x 2
        • Sheal

          Sheal Total Gardener

          Joined:
          Feb 2, 2011
          Messages:
          36,354
          Gender:
          Female
          Location:
          Dingwall, Ross-shire
          Ratings:
          +55,303
          You'll have to speak to admin about triple agree buttons. :heehee:
           
        • Fat Controller

          Fat Controller 'Cuddly' Scottish Admin! Staff Member

          Joined:
          May 5, 2012
          Messages:
          28,548
          Gender:
          Male
          Occupation:
          Public Transport
          Location:
          At me 'puter, GCHQ Ashford Office, Middlesex
          Ratings:
          +53,696
          But don't mention shoes whatever you do, especially if you are asking clueless1 :biggrin:
           
          • Funny Funny x 2
          • ARMANDII

            ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

            Joined:
            Jan 12, 2019
            Messages:
            48,096
            Gender:
            Male
            Ratings:
            +100,845
            If we know what the problems are and what the answers are.....how come the Politicians don't?:scratch: We are, and have been, paying for their lack of decision, mouthing of all the practised sentenced they've learnt where they speak a lot but end up, deliberately, in having said nothing.
            Platforms should have been lengthened and more carriages added years ago, with a gradual upgrading of the rail network years ago. When asked why they were not doing so they pleaded poverty and having to prioritise in other more important areas. And yet here we are in the middle of at least a 5 year Double Dip Recession and yet they have suddenly discovered some money tucked under the Prime Minister's mattress to spend on a project that will not solve any of the transport problems in any way whatsoever.
            I very rarely travel by train but I've never understood how people were, and are, prepared to pay astronomical sums of money for tickets on a train and have to stand up on the whole journey. Now we've got a £30 Billion plus scheme that will benefit an extremely small minority, slash through some of our best God Given countryside, have a rippling negative effect on house prices surrounding the line, affect business, and only benefit the extreme few.
            Have you noticed that the political trend now is to say "Of course all of the projects we have in mind can't really be set in motion until after the next Election". I obviously don't care about the HS2 project as there are some good upgrading alternatives that would have a more positive effect on the running, the stock, and control of costs. But they're talking about other social projects and basically trying to blackmail the public to vote for them in the next General Election or...........!!

            As they say, you know when a Politician is lying............when he opens his mouth.:snork:
             
            • Agree Agree x 3
            • Sheal

              Sheal Total Gardener

              Joined:
              Feb 2, 2011
              Messages:
              36,354
              Gender:
              Female
              Location:
              Dingwall, Ross-shire
              Ratings:
              +55,303
              I think we have an infiltration of shoes on a lot of threads at the moment, is there a takeover bid on GC! :heehee:
               
              • Like Like x 1
              • Agree Agree x 1
              • Fat Controller

                Fat Controller 'Cuddly' Scottish Admin! Staff Member

                Joined:
                May 5, 2012
                Messages:
                28,548
                Gender:
                Male
                Occupation:
                Public Transport
                Location:
                At me 'puter, GCHQ Ashford Office, Middlesex
                Ratings:
                +53,696
                Because those that want to be elected, and are eventually elected, want to have a big trophy project with their name linked to it (and probably shed loads of back-handers, or even a knighthood, which is what they really want).
                 
                • Agree Agree x 2
                • ARMANDII

                  ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

                  Joined:
                  Jan 12, 2019
                  Messages:
                  48,096
                  Gender:
                  Male
                  Ratings:
                  +100,845
                  They wouldn't want the Knighthood if I was wielding the sword, FC!!:paladin:
                   
                  • Funny Funny x 2
                  • Sheal

                    Sheal Total Gardener

                    Joined:
                    Feb 2, 2011
                    Messages:
                    36,354
                    Gender:
                    Female
                    Location:
                    Dingwall, Ross-shire
                    Ratings:
                    +55,303
                    Armandii, paying astronomical amounts for train fares, particularly to journey into London is still a cheaper and easier option than driving there. You have to take into account the parking fees (if you can find somewhere to park),the petrol cost and the congestion charge, all of which are high and then there's the road congestion it causes.

                    Many years ago I worked in London and travelling by car then was a nightmare. During train strikes we would leave home at 3/4am to be in the office at 9am, a journey that only took an hour by train.
                     
                  • joolz68

                    joolz68 Total Gardener

                    Joined:
                    May 16, 2011
                    Messages:
                    4,428
                    Gender:
                    Female
                    Location:
                    alfreton uk
                    Ratings:
                    +5,386
                    And the wildlife are also affected,its coming through tibshelf roadchef land here and the deer cant jump 8ft high metal fences :cry3: so that them restricted to where they can go:cry3: :cry3: :cry3:
                     
                    • Agree Agree x 1
                    • ARMANDII

                      ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

                      Joined:
                      Jan 12, 2019
                      Messages:
                      48,096
                      Gender:
                      Male
                      Ratings:
                      +100,845
                      It might be easier, Sheal, but I doubt that's it's that cheaper. I have several friends who commute to London every day, some from Rutand, Cheshire, Lancashire and Suffolk and at least 3, despite being highly paid, are now seriously thinking of working elsewhere because the high cost of travelling by train is making working a joke.:dunno:
                       
                      • Like Like x 1
                      • pete

                        pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

                        Joined:
                        Jan 9, 2005
                        Messages:
                        52,593
                        Gender:
                        Male
                        Occupation:
                        Retired
                        Location:
                        Mid Kent
                        Ratings:
                        +98,746
                        That is a very good point Jools, I've often wondered why when building rail and motorways they cannot install tunnels under the track/road, I'm sure the wildlife would eventually find these routes and use them.
                        A 6 lane motorway is a deathtrap to wildlife.
                         
                        • Agree Agree x 2
                        • Fat Controller

                          Fat Controller 'Cuddly' Scottish Admin! Staff Member

                          Joined:
                          May 5, 2012
                          Messages:
                          28,548
                          Gender:
                          Male
                          Occupation:
                          Public Transport
                          Location:
                          At me 'puter, GCHQ Ashford Office, Middlesex
                          Ratings:
                          +53,696
                          I mentioned LED street lighting earlier on, and it is one of those things along with longer platforms and longer trains that is going to be held back by lack of funding or lack of interest - yet it is one of the things that would have numerous benefits that go much further than just giving light to a street; let me explain.

                          Very recently, a couple of streets near me have had their old sodium lights whipped out, and new LED fellows put in their place. I admit that I was a bit sceptical when I first saw them going in, but they are absolutely fantastic.

                          - Gone is that dirty orange glow from the sodium lights, and now the road is lit with a pure, pure white light
                          - The light output is directional, and shines down onto the road and pavement, but not up into the sky or across into peoples homes
                          - The colour and intensity of the light is such that it makes it easier to see ice patches, and even in the snow the other week they made it easier to see what the road surface was like
                          - They use considerably less electricity
                          - They have a longer service life than conventional bulbs
                          - They can be or are fitted with a form of SMART technology that not only allows them to be switched on or off, or even dimmed from a central control centre, but also allows them to self-monitor and self-report faults which should cut down repair times and costs


                          Now, consider that this one thing was rolled out as a huge national project, and the impacts would be immense:

                          - Jobs created in manufacturing the lights (metal works, fabrication and coating works, and the electronic parts)
                          - Jobs created in installing them
                          - Vast amounts of savings to be made in expenditure on electricity (to give an idea, I have fitted LED lights in my kitchen replacing 3 x 50w halogens with 3 x 5w LED bulbs, so that is a 90% reduction; 90% reduction in the cost of lighting our streets is one hell of a lot of money
                          - The environmental benefits from the darker skies would not only benefit those of us who like to stargaze, but I believe that it would help pilots (less light pollution so they can see runways and landing approaches clearer), and I am certain that it would help our wildlife and in particular birds who are often confused by the high light levels overnight.
                          - The improved saturation of light should improve personal security, as there seems to be less dark patches
                          - Less light pollution entering homes which should give improved sleep quality
                          - Jobs created to recycle the old light columns

                          Now, it doesn't have the glory of a big fast railway, but can someone tell me where the negative is in the project above? Not least the potential 90% savings for all the years to come?
                           
                          • Agree Agree x 3
                          • Fat Controller

                            Fat Controller 'Cuddly' Scottish Admin! Staff Member

                            Joined:
                            May 5, 2012
                            Messages:
                            28,548
                            Gender:
                            Male
                            Occupation:
                            Public Transport
                            Location:
                            At me 'puter, GCHQ Ashford Office, Middlesex
                            Ratings:
                            +53,696
                            I'm pretty sure that they do build in tunnels etc for wildlife now - in fact, I recall reading quite recently that there was a whole load of money spent on tunnels for badgers or hedgehogs or something when a road was built. I will try searching for the story, but it might take me a long while.
                             
                            • Like Like x 2
                            Loading...

                            Share This Page

                            1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
                              By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
                              Dismiss Notice