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  1. GrahamBl

    GrahamBl Apprentice Gardener

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    I am just doing a little bit of research, and thought you might be able to help.
    What I want to know is,
    Online/ mail order sales of garden plants all seem to charge between £5 and £7 for Postage & Packing.
    Would it not be better to add the cost of packaging to the price of the plants, and then only ading the genuine Postage amount, about £2.70.
    Example,

    Usually,

    Plants 5 @ 20p
    VAT 20p
    =====
    £1.20
    P&P £6.75
    =====
    £7.95


    My idea,

    Plants 5 @ 20p
    VAT 20p
    =====
    £1.20
    Packing 50p
    =====
    £1.70
    Postage £2.70
    =====
    £4.40

    As can be seen my idea works out cheaper, £3.55 in this example, and is also fairer to consumers.

    Let me know what you think, thank you.
     
  2. Cacadores

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    Yes. Would be.

    But people compare prices of plants, plump for the one they want and then agree to the postage and packaging as an afterthought. That way the nurseries get more money.
     
  3. shiney

    shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

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    Graham, welcome to GC :blue thumb:

    There are a number of possible problems with your calculations.

    The cost of packing is, obviously, a pure guess on your part and would almost certainly be more.
    They don't just have to add the packaging material but also the labour cost.
    Is your postage charge based on an actual package you received?
    Don't forget that there is a VAT charged in the P&P charge. Although you go to the post office and buy stamps that are free of VAT the mail order company has to charge you VAT on the whole amount as they are providing a service.

    With a lot of mail order companies the charge for the item is, quite often, very little more than the cost to the company and they need to rely on the 'standard' P&P charge for their profit margin.
     
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    Verdun Passionate gardener

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    I always check the cost of postage and packing before I order plants but I like to compare, like for like, the actual cost of them. P & P costs seem to vary quite a lot but some companies have a fixed charge for a number of plants.....I often share an order with a friend so that we both save on postage costs. One company I know of does include postage as part of the plant's cost but I think it is more expensive. Personally, on-line buying is my preference.....variety choice and quality of plant is better if you know your nursery to be of a high standard. And.....the excitement and anticipation of plants delivered to your door.
     
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    They offer the flat rate as some orders will be cheaper to post and some more expensive than the rate specified. By having one slightly inflated rate they maintain a happy average for p&p costs.
    I know this having started an online deli!
    Costs shift according to size and weight and the calculations start to give you a headache quite quickly if you don't just stick to one price.
     
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    shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

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    Loofah, It's good to hear you've got it up and running :dbgrtmb:. I had a small mail order business for many years and know all the problems you can have.

    We had a contract with the P.O. It made things a lot easier for us. We packaged everything and stamped the packages with a rubber stamp that had our contract number on it. We then took the total weight and divided it by the number of packages and put the calculation slip in the mailbag. The P.O. then charged us an average price.

    I don't know whether that would work now as there is quite a large difference in the rates. It worked very well for us and I did do a number of sample calculations to see whether it was costing us more. It always came out slightly cheaper because they gave us a 10% discount on the rates to the public. I suppose the discount allowed for any discrepancies.
     
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