Soil, soil, soil!

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  1. Loofah

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    After a couple of years of pathetic growing and seeing the bare patches start to appear in the borders I've decided that my leached out sandy soil just isn't cutting it. It always dry, growth is slow and the plants never seem to look their best. It's time for soil improvement!

    I've been digging much deeper borders (more plants, yay!) and while digging them over adding huge amounts of compost and soon [hopefully] barrow loads of rotted manure. I also found out that the earth is so compacted about a spit down that roots would have a hard time of it so probably another reason for bad growth. As I go I'm moving plants about too so getting the garden much closer to how I want it:) All I need to do now is get the extra plants for the extra space. I've removed a couple of small conifers too as they were drying it all out even more; next year I'm hoping for 'lush' not dusty...

    Time will tell...
     
  2. seedstotal

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    Rotted manure tend to work much better then compost for me, or even not rotted, of course you gotta leave the planting for longer if u use not rotted one.
    One patch in the allotment was so bad last year, I added a wheelbarrow of rotted manure there, then planted some lupins from seeds there and wow, helathy strong plants flowering first year, for about 2 months now!!!!!!
     
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    I'm wishing you the very best of luck in your project. Having sandy soil too, I know what a nightmare it is trying to turn it into something more productive.

    Although ours is a fairly new garden, whatever nutrients were in the soil had long since been sucked up by just about every weed known to man. Answering an advert in a local paper resulted in a 'lorry load' of manure being deposited (in bags) on our front lawn and Mr. F'smum spent hours dragging it to where it was needed, then even more hours digging it in. 18 months on we have 2 questions .... where the hell did that lot go? And how can we get some more? :scratch:
     
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    Fidgetsmum; your manure will have helped to improve your soil, unfortunately you still have to keep topping up every so often. Manure is organic matter which decomposes over time and plants use it up, its can take a few years to get a nice loamy soil when starting from something poor like sandy soil. It is expensive and hard work buying in a lorry load, and whilst its worthwhile getting you off to a flying start, in the long run you need to make your own compost. Build a bin out of old pallets or get one or more of those black dalek type bins, your local council may provide them free or very cheap:
    http://www.recyclenow.com/home%5Fcomposting/buy%5Fa%5Fbin/

    Put in all your grass clippings and old/dead plants - and mix in with a layer of cardboard every few inches. It is a long term thing, so it may take a year or so before you are making enough. If you only have a small garden it is difficult to make enough so you may have to buy some in.

    Forgive me if you are already doing this, but you did ask.
     
  5. clueless1

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    My garden had this same problem until this year. The soil was just dry and dusty and wouldn't retain moisture well at all. Lots of manure in there has helped tremendously, but I also found that once a few plants got established in there, it seemed to make it easier for others to as well. I think it is partly due to the fact that once some plants are managing, their foliage shields the surface of the soil from sun and wind, so less moisture evaporates from the surface. The trouble is if that theory is correct then it can go the other way too, in that if some plants start dying then more soil is exposed, and therefore dries out quicker, upsetting the remaining plants.
     
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