Looks like a Sea around the Mump

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    After the environment agency have been saying that dredging will not cure the problem, won't they have red faces if they do dredge this year and it is a success?

    Cheers, Tony.
     
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      They wont know how successful dredging is until there's another prolonged period of exceptional heavy rainfall combined with big spring tides. In theory they might have to wait 100 years (plus keep on dredging) before they know.
       
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      Well this is the second "once in a hundred years" flood we've had in a row, so it might not be that long to wait.

      Ave a look at it from space :yikes:

      http://www.metdesk.com/?p=1817
       
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        And can we afford to have so much valuable argi land out of production?? being were short of food
         
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          If you've had two 100 year events in 2 years, statistically it means waiting another 297 years for another one.

          It's just that I foresee the EA reneging on recent dredging promises (by others), claiming they haven't sufficient funds in next year's budget, and that there's more important priorities, etc., etc.

          Unfortunately, flood protection policies are now being based on sound bites.
           
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            I know it wont do much good if its just me that does it, but I dropped a note to my local MP today.

             
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              Seems to me the way it is going
              A supermarket feeding 3ooo in a town beats three cow sheds and the family home :-(

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              Well, I think the "Once in a Hundred Years" school of thought is now outdated and thinking that should be left in the ages. The world climate is changing, whatever the reason, and the weather is getting more violent and extreme and I think the Environmental Agency has acknowledge it rather than worrying about the purse strings above people.
              Lord Smith says we have to choose between protecting towns or the countryside against flooding. He, and the rest of the gang, are driven by their reluctance to spend any money or change their way of thinking despite the misery brought to people and the fact that they, and past Governments, have totally ignored warnings and advice from experts.....all because it meant spending money.
               
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                It's interesting that when these sort of disasters happen in other countries Britain is usually one of the first to send aid in whatever form. When it happens here we just have to get on with it, the rest of the world conveniently forgets about us!
                 
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                  Well, we usually send aid to Hurricane, drought, or like disasters to the third world countries who haven't got the resources to deal with what ever has happened. While, we are [some say] on the down slope we're still financially rich enough to deal with problems such as the floods. Where we are deficient is in our Governments being able to recognise the the need to use the finances and resources that we have in abundance. They have failed to recognise that lack of maintenance of flood barriers, dredging of rivers etc in the past has led to this sudden need to take action that is giving them nightmares about the Bottom Line.
                   
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                    I think some of the reasons against doing anything about dredging ( inter alia) were that it would damage the delicate balance of bankside habitat eg water voles, and then, I think Health and Safety said you couldn't put the dredgings back on the land where it would contaminate agriculture and livestock.
                    Yeah, so we now have sewage coming up through the drains and filling the ground floors of folks houses and the animals that once lived by the river have long since drowned,
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                      Has anybody suggested beavers yet?
                      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wi...ack-beavers-to-stop-flooding-says-expert.html
                       
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                        If you do things at the right time of year you can dig the ditches and rivers with out touching the banks, i've do it no problem

                        But it has already contaminate now by human poo, animal poo,roting dead wild animal and rotting vegertion, The river sludge will be better than what's about at the moment

                        I think it's all about RED TAPE
                         
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                          Mite as well get the boats back on the river as well,they will keep it cleaner :dbgrtmb:
                           
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                          Yes where is the EU Disaster fund when we need it ?

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