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    By tradition rose growers say it's best to prune roses in February for the forthcoming season, but with the changes in our weather patterns I'm now tending to go against that. At present my roses still have leaves from last year and also have new shoots up to three inches long so I've decided not to leave them any longer and get them pruned, I actually first thought about pruning them three weeks ago but with the weather being so bad I've not been near the garden. I think in future I'll go by what the roses are 'telling me' and not the growers.

    What does everyone else think please?
     
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      its a difficult choice as if we do get hard weather , the new shoots may get frosted after you have pruned , I tend to just tidy up and later in March do the final cuts , works for me Sheal and the weather so variable all over the UK.
       
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        Well I was moving and pruning mine this morning so I hope it's ok!
         
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          I did my rose climbers on thurs sheal but not the stems with buds on as i wasnt sure,ive stuck my cut offs in the ground ....ya never know they might sprut :heehee: x
           
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            Spruce, March is much to late for me here, being a small island the climate here is warmer than the mainland. :)
             
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              I prune when I feel its the right time,I would never do it in January as I think we have a lot of frost to come yet and as I always prune in March my roses get used to being pruned the same time every year,yes I de-bud and tidy them up now if its been a mild January,this is only Woos personal opinion :)

              The new growth put on by roses in a mild January, all those delicate buds that have started to grow, are frost tender, and you can bet your last penny that, within a few weeks, hard frosts will be hitting those buds hard. The frost will not bother the bush itself, but the growing buds will be killed off. Consequently, these will rot on the plant and attract any number of fungal disease, the most common of which is black spot.;)
               
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                Woo, I understand what you're saying from the mainland point of view, but we get very few frosts here and with the exception of last Easter we've had no snow to speak of for nearly twenty years. :)
                 
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                  Good morning Sheal I do understand my friend that's why I said
                  and you do exactly the same based on your climate.past experience and your knowledge of your Roses:)
                   
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                    Il be pruning and mulching from now to early march as and when each bush needs something. I think you've got to do what the individual bush and the weather forecast is telling u. If u look their all doing different things at the moment. Some are just finishing last years flowering. (I will b starting with these) Some have got big shoots on already. You will always be first to prune coz of your geographical location
                     
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                      Wonder if I can add a question to pruning discussion re my 'silver jubilee' roses. They've been attacked over last summer by the neighbouring cat, apparently he thought they were a scratch post or something. It has had the effect that some stems were completely torn off. My instinct is to let them be , although they are a bit ragged due to rather haphazard cat pruning. :( some of the branches are brown and have totally given up.
                       
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                      Afternoon
                      Regarding "Silver Jubilee" roses I would cut off the brown bits and the ragged bits. Cut back to either a healthy bud or to a healthy main stem if there are no buds.
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                      Good morning Reetgood my friend ,I am not sure without a photo but ,but if I had one it would probably confuse me;) only joking.

                      Not sure how tall it is if it were my beautiful Rose I would prune it hard back to 6/12 inches.

                      Please check these canes
                      first a little scratch with your finger nail just on the surface to see if they are green just below the surface but if they are dead then remove them (clean sharp Secateurs) ,as close to the main center cane as you can,without damaging the main cane.

                      The ones that you say that were torn off have they damaged the main cane,if they have left any part of there cane just tidy them up with a clean cut.

                      After you have treated the patient(Rose) a little feed of whatever you use(I would use Blood/Fish/Bonemeal) just sprinkle on the soil at the base of your Rose and then plenty of water not on the Rose only round the base we don't want to encourage Blackspot do we.
                      As for the neighboring Cat,I respectfully suggest putting a tube of wire around your Rose for protection,its not the cats fault ,it probably yours:heehee: only joking my friend,if you need anymore help and advice please just post ,there are a lot of experienced and friendly members
                      here whose knowledge and love of Roses is second to none,enjoy your day:)
                       
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                      Thanks Nigel and woo! Some of the main canes have been damaged so I will do as you suggest woo. Some of the other branches already have leaf buds, if I trim these back will that be a bad idea? I had just readied myself to install some kind of barrier when the cat suddenly decided it was bored of destroying my roses. So hopefully they will fare better. I put a mulch of well rotted manure on a couple of weeks ago.
                       
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                      Good afternoon Reetgood prune the whole Rose evenly even the ones with buds on,they will come back:)
                       
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