Israel

I find it hard to understand everything that is going on but Israel seem to be overdoing it. I was going to chip in with some comments from my Palestinian colleague but I guess the thread has fizzled out.

 

I'm still reading........................

 

I'm still reading. Maybe we can, between us, work out a logical solution. Then we can email all the world leaders and say 'look, a bunch of amateur gardeners figured out what you can't figure out, now sort it, or else we'll be taking your jobs'.

 

Now its on the news that the only power station in the Gaza strip has been destroyed by Israeli tank fire.

Taking out the infrastructure is, I believe, a standard strategy in war. But, it is a strategy that can only affect civilians. How can it not? No power, total chaos, and massively reduced chance of the wounded being mended, as the hospitals too are without power. And of course if/when all this is over, if anyone is left, then what? It seems to me they are completely cut off and 100% dependent on their enemy for everything. Note how I said 'their enemy', whereas earlier I expressed my belief that the majority of ordinary people would not be interested in a fight. Well, now interested or not, war has been brought to them. There is no way its a fair fight, and I find it sickening the hypocrisy that while the world is rattling sabres at Russia because a minority of pro Russian militants launched counter protests to the pro western violent Ukranians (which then escalated into war), nobody is asking Israel to get a grip of themselves despite the total annihilation that they are clearly carrying out against the entire population, women and kids included, of some hemmed in slither of land that is no match for anyone.

 

No it's not. But is there anything fair about grooming a mentally handicapped youth to be a suicide bomber. Try telling the families of their victims that war is fair.
Is it fair that Hamas hides its rockets in a UN run school?

It is. I'm sure that if you were to google the key words of "allied bombing Hamburg Dresden" you will find more than enough to be going on with.

I tried to stay away, and I'm not defending the Israeli in action in its entirety, but they do have to sort Hamas out once and for all. It was only this February (?) that they intercepted a ship carrying Iranian rockets with a longer range.

Wellll,,,,,,,,,, Hamas has been happily using Russian made rockets for a number of years as well.

Disclaimer- these are just my thoughts & I respect the views of others, so please don't get upset.

 

Yeah I'm still reading as well, although Armadii is perhaps still writing volume two, which I will read when I get time.
I'm due to retire in 2021, I'll read it then.

 

From my Palestinian colleague (so viewpoint is very biased) whose family still live out there it's practically a third world country with one of the highest if not the highest density in the world. There has been a siege for seven years causing the population to do anything - absolutely anything to fight back. What is worse flying in an F16 to bomb a hospital/sole power station or strapping 50 lbs of divine retribution to yourself and going off in crowded place? Neither are innocent obviously. My colleague says it's a genocide what's going on, there is mainly young and old left.

She says she'll never go back now she has tasted freedom in the first world (Hull).

DISCLAIMER: I don't know what I'm talking about but thought my contribution was valid and maybe insightful for some.

 

Of course not.

Also of course its not fair that anyone should be victims of anyone.

But, do two wrongs make a right?

Israel are justified (in my opinion) in going after the terrorists that fire rockets into Israel. That would be a focused, precisely targeted assault on a genuine enemy. Firing shells from ships at sea, dropping bombs from the air, and blasting things with tank fire is not a targeted assault on terrorists, unless the whole population, women and kids included, can be classed as terrorists.

I know of the allied bombardment of some German cities during WW2. There is a difference there. Britain was not winning. Britain was desperate. There was an aggressor hell bent on domination and genocide that was a technically superior force, and was winning. Having thus far failed to break the military might of this aggressor, Britain and her allies took the decision to try to break the spirit of the people and therefore destroy support for the military of the enemy. It was of course not nice, but then war isn't, and had that action not been taken, quite likely we would not be having this conversation because chances are we might not have been around to have it.

 

And Israel would definitly not exist.

 

I am still reading...
my only comment - and it is simply that....
no female GC members are taking part in this thread. As I have said elsewhere, females give birth and naturally preserve life. It seems the natural tendency for males to destroy at will.
Why oh why is it ever thus?
I only hope they discourage females from joining the fighting military ranks. If that becomes the norm, then I will know that mankind is doomed to destruction,
Jenny namaste