How to train rambler over small area?

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  1. JonC

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    Hi everyone, I'm looking for advice for how to train a rambling rose over a small area – specifically the side of a bike shed, which is 90cm wide by 160cm tall. The rose, a Ghislaine de Féligonde, was planted as a bare root last autumn just in front of that side of the shed, and has already grown about 50cm.

    I have bought vine eyes and galvanised wire, which I plan to fix horizontally across the side of the shed. My concern, however, is that with little room for sideways training the stems will have to be trained vertically upwards, and that this might lead to a bunch of flowers at the top of the shed and not much lower down. I have never trained a rose before but, as I understand it, the stems are normally encouraged to grow as near to horizontal as possible, to encourage flowers to grow close to the ground as well as up high. In my case, the width of the plant is already naturally about the width of the shed, so no further training in the horizontal direction appears possible – unless the stems are encouraged to zig-zag their way up.

    What do you think? Is it advisable to zig-zag the stems of roses? If not, what is the best way to encourage plenty of flowers in such a small space?
     
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    Welcome to Gardeners Corner JonC. I know very little about rambling roses, but I will tag our wonderful rose expert @wiseowl for you, who will be able to help you with your questions. :)
     
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      I have this rose too, I'm just letting mine claw its way up and over an arch. Probably not the best way of doing it but it's still young so no real rambler shoots coming out yet?
       
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        Hopefully @wiseowl will be along soon to give you the best advice. :)
         
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          This is only my own personal and honest advice;):smile:

          Good morning @JonC well it is a beautiful rambling Rose,and not a vigorous grower, with yellow, white, pink, orange, salmon & red hue of blooms,it can be treated as a climber with pruning,but my advice would be to leave it for now if this is its first year,and see what it does then you will be able to see what pruning and tidying up it will need next year,,3 ft is not very wide for this Rose.
          Personally I never prune a Climbing/Rambling Rose in its first 2/3 years you can always change the shape in the future to the way you want it to grow.

          "With such a romantic name, it's surprising that this lovely rose is not more widely grown. French rose: ""With fernlike foliage as elegant as its name, this rose is remarkable among ramblers for its constant bloom. From June onwards, clusters of apricot buds open into slightly disheveled, pale chamois flowers, the color becoming more intense and taking on peach tints as autumn draws near. Even in December, new buds are forming, despite weather that prevents them from opening. Few thorns and a stiff growth habit make this a good choice for growing against a trellis or wall. If it had a discernible scent, this might well be the perfect rose."" In summer, its flowers attract bees and butterflies, and in autumn, 'Ghislaine de Feligonde' produces decorative hips that attract birds. Like all ramblers, it provides good protection, including potential nesting sites, for wild birds. It can also be grown as a large shrub."

          Parentage
          Goldfinch x Seedling

          She's a French beauty, bred by Turbat in 1916,
           
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            Thank you Woo, I've now learnt something about ramblers too. :dbgrtmb:
             
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              Thank you @wiseowl , I'm glad I've done the right thing in not pruning mine. It's very shrubby and kept nearly all of its leaves through winter.
               
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                Good morning @CharlieBot my friend and I am still learning about Roses from all GC's Rose lover's many thanks to you all for that and for keeping the Rose Forum going,with all your important and valuable posts:ThankYou::smile:

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                  Thank you for your expanse of knowledge to Woo! :)
                   
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