London council advising not to give money to beggars

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    Thank you both for putting into words what i was finding hard to say:dbgrtmb:
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      Do you remenber the much love Smokey Joe on Telegragh hill Nr Exeter
       
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      I'd be interested to know what people's opinions are with regard to the likelihood of giving money to beggars being connected to them losing their lives (as the link I gave in the OP suggested .... "may contribute to their early death"). I realise this must be a guess but I query whether giving the odd £1 coin can make such a difference as to bring about a marked difference, i.e. sufficient to buy enough of the drug to do damage. However, I realise there is a cumulative aspect involved regarding if everyone did the same.
       
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      Why is it assumed that giving a pound to a beggar will lead to him/her buying drugs and not food or hot drinks??:dunno:........not everyone "on the street" is a drug user/abuser:doh:. I would think to give any realistic, informed opinion of such a matter would require a lot of research of authorative evidence or actually gaining experience of what it is actually like to beg and be homeless.:coffee:
       
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        I thought a "Smokey Joe" was a Kipper:dunno::heehee:
         
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        Smokey Joe's / Greasy Spoon, fry up cafe's

        Kipper = Royal Marine = two faced and no guts :-)

        Back on subject
        There is a blind beggar, plays a keyboard on Saturdays in local town
        People chuck in lose change and sometimes £1 coins
        At five o'clock he packs up puts his keyboard under his arm and taps his way
        along the street and round the corner, to get into his new BMW then drives off

        Many a penny maks a muckle

        Jack McH
         
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          Now don't you go insulting the Royal Marines, Jack.:nonofinger::heehee: I used to have to train Marines on the radar equipment for the Rapier missiles used in the Falklands War. I'd tell them that they were doing well learning but would they please stop holding hands on leaving the Lecture Room:dunno::heehee:
           
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          They usually only wear dresses on Saturday nights :-)

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            Well I did not say we did not rosebay, ours is Monday and Wednesday night unless it is our turn in the barrel

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              Too much information, Jack :hate-shocked: :nonofinger: :heehee:
               
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                Yes Jiffy I can and also one from Trowbridge called Charley.. Now they were tramps not beggars I know, but beggars today are a different breed and all too often spend it on drugs or booze...
                 
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                  It is easy to dismiss the homeless today as being mostly junkies or alcoholics. So many do not fall into that category. Perhaps it might be a way to ease our conscience when we do not want to give/help out in any way.

                  Here is some insight into the many causes of homelessness (and, whilst I have reservations on taking to drink or drugs if homeless, it is totally understandable as a form of escape)

                  http://england.shelter.org.uk/campaigns/why_we_campaign/tackling_homelessness/What_causes_homelessness
                   
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                  @rosebay I must agree wholeheartedly with this. I find your interpretations and conclusions quite bemusing and you seem to ask opinions whilst almost never accepting the other person's viewpoint.

                  Although I'm sure you don't intend it but some of your comments come across as preaching or condescending and you're gradually losing us from the thread (apart for non-related humorous comments).

                  I'm not sure of the relevance of your last link as it's a survey taken in a society that, as far as I'm concerned, doesn't bear much of a correlation to England today. :dunno:

                  I think I shall concentrate on some other threads now - my head hurts! :wallbanging: :)
                   
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