Rose Tree

Discussion in 'Roses' started by Muddy14, May 8, 2009.

  1. Muddy14

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    I ahe a rose tree that is in a pot, it has grown very busy and the wind is giving it a bit of a bashing. My worry is that will it be strong enough in the pot with all that swaying?! Or does it need some sort of support?
     
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    Hi Muddy Some more Information would,be useful ie,Type of Rose,Size of pot ect,How long as It been in the Pot? Going on the Information given I would say No ,just make sure that the base of the Rose Is firm In the Compost and not moving about ,Unless it is a Standard Rose It then I would say Yes, The reason that a Rose is staked is two fold (1) To prevent the the main Cane (stem) ,working loose In the compost at the base and leaving the Roots with no stability,This Is known as( Wind Rock) and to prevent the main cane from breaking.Hope this has been of some help to you:thumb:,good luck:)
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    The main cane is suffering from 'Wind Rock' and coming a little loose around the base.

    The rose tree itself I ahve no idea what it is as it was a present. It is about 5-5.5ft tall, the pot is prob around 40cm circumfrance and 50cm deep.
     
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    Hi Muddy If the Pot is only 40cm (15 and 3/4Inches)circumference,Do you mean Diameter:scratch::) Is there any chance you could plant It in the Garden ? or repot It.:thumb::)
     
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    Sorry yes I mean diameter! whoops!

    I am not sure about putting it in the ground as its such a lovely tree and grown so well in a pot I dont want to risk killing it, I dont think there is any where nice to put it in my garden either.

    I think I might search out a bigger pot like you have said, how wil this stop the problem though? Biogger root's and weight at the bottom? Thanks for the help, really appreciated.
     
  6. lollipop

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    Hi Muddy,


    You won't kill it if you put it in the ground unless you are as clumsy as I am and you do something completely foolish, and if you have an ugly corner I can think of nothing more effective to pretty it up than a beautiful standard rose.

    Plants in pots do stand a risk of being deficient in something, be it water, minerals etc.


    In my experience, root rock occurs with large roses, in a windy spot with insufficient anchorage-although, sometimes it can be due to a bad supplier, in that the graft point is not sufficiently secure) .

    Usually this can be overcome if you stake it correctly, I point the stakes ( perhaps a small tree stake is in order with a large standard rose) towards the "draught" ( the direction it is likely to be blown from). As the wind blows it drives the stake in further thereby increasing the anchorage.

    This is a lot easier if it is planted in the soil, but you can acheive the same success if you choose a large enough planter.

    Asda are currently offering some good prices on the very big planters although you will have to drill your own drainage holes-as I have been doing all afternoon. Wilkinsons is another good place for pots and the like ( although I have just been today and there didn't seem to be anything large enough on offer there today).

    You can plant a large rose but give it all the factors it needs to thrive. Good soil with plemty of rotted manure and compost and a good sturdy pole to anchor it and it will romp away. Don't overfeed roses or you'll end up with pests galore.
     
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    Hi Muddy I personally wouldn't use anything less than a Half Barrel for Roses,But that Is only my way,There,s a song In there Somewhere:hehe: Plenty of drainage in the Bottom of the Barrel,and In a Pot or Barrel they need watering regularly,Good luck :thumb::)
     
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