Tomato Feed

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  1. djrock

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    Hello, I am not sure which tomato feed to get this year.:scratch:

    Last year I decided to try Asdaâ??s feed. Since after reading as long as the NPK was right then there should be no problems. I canâ??t find what roughly tom feed should be. So what is the ideal NPK ratio should tom feed be?

    I have been looking at the below:

    Westland Nutri 5.3-2.7-8
    60mls to 1 Gallon
    Feed Every Week
    1L Bottle £3.50

    Westland (Normal Stuff) 4-2-6
    ½ cap (about 30ml) to 1 Gallon (4.5 Litres)
    Feed Every Week
    1L Bottle £2

    Tomorite 4-4.5-8
    20ml to 1 Gallon (4.5 Litres)
    Feed Every Week
    Second Truss Twice a Week
    1L Bottle £3.48

    Tesco 5-5-10
    30ml to 1.5 Gallon (7 Litres)
    Feed Every Week
    1L Bottle £2

    Asda 4-4-12
    30ml to 1.5 Gallon (7 Litres)
    Feed Every Week
    High Yield Every 3 to 4 Days
    1L Bottle £2

    Asda and Tesco feed seems the best. They have the highest K, which I think is what you want for the fruit. It makes 500 millilitres more feed and price wise itâ??s the same as the Westland (Normal Stuff) but that has a lower NPK.

    The Westland Nutri looks like it would work out to be the dearest, 60mls used per feed.

    Thankyou

    djrock
     
  2. pamsdish

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    I thought the most used was Wilkos own brand :scratch:
     
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    I use B&QS own brand.


    To be brutally honest, I haven't ever checked the NPK, but from experience I get the best strawbwerrries from this particulr brand.
     
  4. Jack by the hedge

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    I seriously wonder if it makes a great deal of difference what brand of fertilizer you use. I tend to pick up what is the cheapest I can find; sometimes I just use liquid growmore and am never seriously disappointed with the crop. I wonder if the type of compost used to grow toms in pots or bags, for instance one with enhanced moisture retaining properties, might be a more pertinent consideration.

    I further wonder if there has ever been a controlled trial of various fertilizers to find out if they really do what they claim to on the packaging..."WHICH" perhaps?
     
  5. Kristen

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    I think you should look for an NPK in the ratio of about 1:1:2 - so about twice as much "K" as the N and P. A Tomato feed that is labelled as such is also likely to have suitable trace elements.

    I'm using Doff this year 'coz it was a lot cheaper than Tomorite (which I have always used in the past)

    I did a bit of comparison a month or two back, sorry bit Nerdy isn't it?!!

    Suttons Tomato Superfeed says a 750g pack will make 900 litres of liquid superfeed and contains NPK 10:10:24 plus magnesium, calcium, trace elements & seaweed extract - cost is £6.95

    I've got 2.5 Litres of Doff Tomato Feed here, makes 1,162 Litres of feed (15ml / 7L). NPK = 5:5:10 with "magnesium and added trace elements (not listed)" £4.99 (from Amazon)

    Tomorite 2.5 Litres is £13.25 @ Amazon. NPK = 4:4.5:8 makes 562 Litres (20ml / 4.5L) (Recommended 4.5L per grow-bag once, / twice a week)

    so I took the cost and divided that by the total diluted volume that a bottle can make - so I have a cost-per-litre of diluted feed (assuming that they can all be applied at the same rate / plant)

    On that basis:

    Suttons 900 litres for £6.95 = 0.77p / L

    Tomorite 562 Litres for £13.25 = 2.36p / L

    Doff 1,162 Litres for £4.99 = 0.43p / L

    However, the instructions on Doff say : "Growbags or Ring culture: use at double-strength" which levels the playing field a bit ...

    and then there is the application rate:

    Full Doff instructions:

    "In the greenhouse: when the first truss has set apply the feed every 7 days. 7 litres should be sufficient for 9 plants. Feed every 3-4 days when the second truss has set.

    Outdoors: when the second truss has set apply the feed every 10-14 days. 7 litres should be sufficient for 12 plants

    Growbags or Ring culture: use at double-strength and feed every 7 days

    High performance recommendations: for higher yields the above rates can be applied twice as often - i.e. in the greenhouse, in grow bags, or ring culture, feed every 2-4 days; outdoor tomatoes can be fed every 5-7 days"

    Source: The2.5L bottle I bought this year

    Tomorite says:

    "Under glass: When first truss has set feed at alternate waterings

    Outdoors : When second truss has set feed every 7-14 days. Use 4.5 litres for two plants.

    Growbags: Use 4.5 litres per bag, feed once a week, under glass increase to twice a week when the second truss has set"

    Source: http://www.wyevale.co.uk/Scotts-Levington-Tomorite-+1lt/0800000338,default,pd.html - select back of bottle and zoom in

    Personally I found that frequency too often last year - my Tomatoes were in 14" pots stood on soil, and the fruit split despite very even watering, and I think they were being over fed.

    Put a more simple way:

    I got through two bottles of Tomorite last year - call that 26 quid. If one bottle of £4.99 Doff would do me instead (given that it makes twice as much as the Tomorite) that will work for me!
     
  6. mchumph

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    good grief.
    I remember in the old days when Amazon only sold books and CDs!
     
  7. sheelaghm

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    Now my brain hurts. Think I'll go and lie down. :wink:
     
  8. linny

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    ive got some miracle grow from last year, could i use that to feed my tomatoes ?
     
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    YES you could, but i use that on all my flowers and a specific tomato food just seems better for me , same as i use a specific food for the ericacious plants ,
    horses for courses
    :thumb:
     
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    "ive got some miracle grow from last year, could i use that to feed my tomatoes ?"

    Depends what the NPK ratio on it is. Its needs to be in the ratio 1:1:2 - so 5:5:10 or 7:7:14 would be fine (and anything "close" to that ratio)

    They make a "Miracle-Gro Water Soluble Tomato Plant Food" which I presume you have not got? The NPK for that is 18-18-21 - so not really 1:1:2 :(

    The "Miracle-Gro Water Soluble All Purpose Plant Food" NPK is 24-8-16 - so completely the wrong way round - that will favour more leaves, rather than more fruits.

    Anyway, best to check the NPK on the packet that you have got.
     
  11. linny

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    i've just got the miracle grow for plants so i'll get some tomato food, they have got flowers but no fruit yet so i will wait till then to actually give them some.?:)
     
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    Normal advice is to wait until the first truss sets (i.e. has little fruit where the flower was), but I think once its actually in flower would be OK too. Tape the plant to dislodge pollen so that the fruit pollinates, and spraying with water will help pollination too.
     
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    Is anyone growing comfrey for fertiliser use?
    It makes an excellent tea for tomato feeding.
     
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    Is anyone growing comfrey for fertiliser use?



    Yes and it's good too!

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  15. has bean counter

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    I aim to use Blood, fish and bone topped up with some additional Potash.

    I would be interested in more information on comfrey tea
     
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