A Tale of Two Lupins

Discussion in 'General Gardening Discussion' started by Flinty, Jun 10, 2008.

  1. Flinty

    Flinty Gardener

    Joined:
    May 19, 2008
    Messages:
    737
    Ratings:
    +5
    Six weeks ago, I bought and planted two gallery lupins, one blue and the other cream. Theyâ??re about three metres apart and have been given the same feed and watering. As you can see, the cream lupin is nice and tight and is zooming away with four vigorous flower spikes.

    [​IMG]

    The blue one has no flowers at all and just â??doesnâ??t look rightâ?. The lower leaves flop and the individual blades of each leaf are slow to open. Some leaves seem misshapen although other leaves have definitely been attacked by pigeons â?? I caught them at it.

    [​IMG]

    Is the blue lupin just a slow starter or does it have to be given special treatment/ disposed of? Any advice would be most welcome.
     
  2. coub

    coub Gardener

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2008
    Messages:
    329
    Ratings:
    +0
    The blue one looks o.k to me Flinty maybe just a slow starter!!
     
  3. Makka-Bakka

    Makka-Bakka Gardener

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2008
    Messages:
    474
    Occupation:
    Research assistant and someone to blame things on
    Location:
    Quedgeley, south of Gloucester!
    Ratings:
    +13
    With luck and TLC it will flower later in the season!

    Also cut the old flower spikes off when they finish flowering, (don't let the seed cases turn brown) and you may get a second flush of flowers, in the autumn!

    Cherrio!
     
  4. elliegreenwellie

    elliegreenwellie Gardener

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2007
    Messages:
    411
    Ratings:
    +1
    Hi I have the same, planted white ones last year which are amazing this year, lots and lots of huge flower spikes. planted two blue ones and they are only a third of the size and a couple of flower spikes each. - Watch out for snails and lupin aphids on them - I have a constant battle with both.
     
  5. JarBax

    JarBax Gardener

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2007
    Messages:
    1,148
    Ratings:
    +2
    Perhaps the blue one's leaves just are different - they don't look diseased or anything too bad to me. Maybe it's a later flowerer by nature, ooo - just noticed the bottom most leaves - how interesting! Definitely hang onto it, and see what happens!

    Let us know!!!
     
  6. biker

    biker Gardener

    Joined:
    May 31, 2008
    Messages:
    95
    Ratings:
    +0
    Those are lovely healthy specimens. The slugs get mine so I've given up! Lovely though.
     
  7. Makka-Bakka

    Makka-Bakka Gardener

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2008
    Messages:
    474
    Occupation:
    Research assistant and someone to blame things on
    Location:
    Quedgeley, south of Gloucester!
    Ratings:
    +13
    Lupins usually get very woody after the second or third year,so I try to take cuttings of the best ones each year.

    If I collect seed from any, I only leave a couple of seed pods to ripen on the stem, I cut the rest off, this is supposed to save the plants energy!

    Totally agree about aphids, with me they are greyish colour, larger than the normal green ones and usually are found around the base of the stems.
    A quick spray with insecticide quickly gets rid of them.

    Also, some years they do not flower or grow as well as others years, I have no idea why!

    Cherrio!
     
  8. PeterS

    PeterS Total Gardener

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2005
    Messages:
    6,662
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    N Yorks
    Ratings:
    +4,016
    Christopher Lloyd used to grow Lupins as a biennial. He said that after flowering they go black and look horrible. And they leave a gap that you can't fill because Lupins have tap roots and you can't move them.

    So I have done the same this year. I bought some small plugs last year and grew them on in pots, then planted them out in the autumn. They look brilliant this year. And I already have this years seedlings growing, ready for next year.
     
  9. Flinty

    Flinty Gardener

    Joined:
    May 19, 2008
    Messages:
    737
    Ratings:
    +5
    Thanks for your advice, folks.

    I still think the blue one looks a bit of a backslider. But I'll keep my beady eye on him...
     
  10. elliegreenwellie

    elliegreenwellie Gardener

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2007
    Messages:
    411
    Ratings:
    +1
    Interesting mine are fab this year - I am hoping for the same next year - think I'll collect some seed though just incase! - would I plant the seed in the autumn and over winter in the greenhouse or wait till next spring to plant?

    I am useless at cuttings - are they easy from lupins?
     
  11. PeterS

    PeterS Total Gardener

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2005
    Messages:
    6,662
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    N Yorks
    Ratings:
    +4,016
    Ellie - I would plant the seeds as soon as they are available. With luck you will have a reasonably well established plant by winter that can be left outside and will flower next year. If you plant them next year in the spring they probably won't flower that year.

    Lupin seeds have a very hard coating. I soak them for several days in a saucer of water, and transplant them to a pot of compost as soon as they start to germinate.
     
  12. elliegreenwellie

    elliegreenwellie Gardener

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2007
    Messages:
    411
    Ratings:
    +1
    Thanks Pete, that's helpful x
     
Loading...

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice