Acer? Maybe?

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  1. Fat Controller

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    I have a small wall that divides the patio and the grass areas in my garden, its about three courses of bricks high, and has a small border in the middle of it which is about one brick length in width; at the moment, it is filled with grape hyacinth that seem to be 'blind' this year (so just a tousled mess of green growth at the minute), a penstemon is also buried in there somewhere, a couple of red cordylines and a conifer at one end.

    Both the conifer and the cordylines are getting too big now, and something needs to give really. In amongst all of this, there is also old tree stumps (goodness knows what kind of trees) which makes planting the border up each year a bit of a pain.

    Now, just to add another layer - I really don't like cordylines, so I am needing no persuasion to get shot of them - the conifer may well get a reprieve from death, but is likely to get a trim (and I will be seeking advice how to proceed if I choose that as the preferred option).

    I am of a mind to rip the whole lot out, and I mean the lot - - - I have a plunge cutter that I could use along with a drill and a couple of crowbars to cut/burst out the majority of the remnants of the tree stumps. I would like to save the penstemon, but not sure if I can even find it in amongst the green mess that currently exists :dunno:

    Once clear, I could then fill the border with new compost and plant it up, however to bring back some structure and to give some winter interest, I was wondering about getting a low-ish shrub such as an acer (one of the red or purpley ones maybe)? Or am I barking up the wrong shrub tree?
     
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    Acer will be leafless in winter, I would go for a nice shrub I think. Red stemmed dogwood if it's winter interest you're looking for? Why are the grape hyacinths blind?
     
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      I did look at the red stemmed dogwood, but wasn't too sure about how big they can get? There is not a single bloom or bud in sight, so I essentially have a thick grassy-like mess. I am not a fan of the hyacinths either really, and haven't exactly been nice to them.

      I am not overly fussed about the winter interest as such, more putting a wee bit of structure back in after taking the cordylines out, if that makes sense?
       
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      The cordylines have haunted you FC, perhaps it's time for them to be despatched. If you're to make anything of the area then I think the conifer should go to, they sap soil of nutrients very quickly and anything else planted there will struggle. The roots may be a problem as they will have spread quite a way but what you can't remove you can just cut as the conifer won't grow back.

      Has the area been built on a solid base or does the soil go down into the ground?
       
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      How big really isn't an issue because to get those colourful winter stems you would need to cut it down each year. It is the new growth which gives the best stem colour :)

      Love the idea of a small acer but I haven't researched them yet, so can't offer any suggestions.
       
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      I would go for this!!! :) doesn't sounds like you have anything there which you are particularly fond of so starting again will be a real boost.
      Just a suggestion if you do decide to go for an acer don't get it from Van Meuwen, their acers are very nice but very small, I would strongly recommend http://www.crocus.co.uk/
       
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        I like Crocus too @Val.. - in fact, I could spend a fortune on their site.
         
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        Yes me too, very easily.
         
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          You can decent sized acers from most local nurseries/garden centres for not too much money. I would probably spend a bit more and get one not too far off the size I wanted. I'm fussy about the shapes of slow growing trees and shrubs so prefer to buy them in person.
           
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              Crocus have this!!! :)
               
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                Only thing wrong with Sango Kaku is that they are very liable to just up and die for no apparent reason. I have had three superb specimens ....two of which were over 10 years old ... which just expired without asking my permission :(
                Maybe a smaller growing laceleaf like Garnet or Crimson Queen?
                 
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                  Oooh, Garnet looks nice. Needs a bit of thought this decision :)
                   
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                  Hi Sam, I knew you'd be able to come up with an answer. :blue thumb:
                   
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