All pensioners should be sent to jail.

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  1. kindredspirit

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    Let's put the pensioners in jail and the criminals in a nursing home.

    This way the pensioners would have access to showers, hobbies and walks.

    They'd receive unlimited free prescriptions, dental and medical treatment, wheel chairs etc and they'd receive money instead of paying it out.

    They would have constant video monitoring, so they could be helped instantly, if they fell, or needed assistance.

    Bedding would be washed twice a week, and all clothing would be ironed and returned to them.

    A guard would check on them every 20 minutes and bring their meals and snacks to their cell.

    They would have family visits in a suite built for that purpose.

    They would have access to a library, weight room, spiritual counseling, pool and education.

    Simple clothing, shoes, slippers, PJ's and legal aid would be free, on request.

    Private, secure rooms for all, with an exercise outdoor yard, with gardens.

    Each senior could have a PC a TV radio and daily phone calls.

    There would be a board of directors to hear complaints, and the guards would have a code of conduct that would be strictly
    adhered to.

    The criminals would get cold food, be left all alone and unsupervised.
    Lights off at 8pm, and showers once a week. Live in a tiny room and pay €600 per week and have no hope of ever getting out.



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    • Phil A

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      That would be funny if it wasn't so accurate.

      The "care" home MIL was in had arbitrarily stopped feeding her as they had decided as she can't move, she wasn't worth keeping alive.

      Its been 2 years since we got her out of there.
       
    • Paladin

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      The B******S!:mad:
       
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      I guess that those a-holes don't realize it will be THEM in that position someday. What goes around comes around.
       
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        I have a friend who is a ex Prison Officer at an Open Prison. He was disgusted in the way money was thrown at projects for the prisoners to appease, while the Prison Officers were having to "fight" for proper equipment and suitable foul weather clothing. Governers came and went using the position as a step up the ladder with no connection to the actual working staff of the prison. My friend resigned from the Prison Service in disgust and just over 7 months later the prisoners burned the prison to the ground:(:WINK1::rolleyespink::dunno:
         
      • Lolimac

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        May i say that not all care homes are the same....I work in a home for residents with late stage dementia which is extremly emotionally challenging...for all concerned...I for one am totally devoted to the residents care and well being but i fully understand where you are coming from Kindredspirit...Going back some thirty years ago i was so proud to say i'm a carer everyone thought i was an 'angel':) but things are very different now....i avoid getting onto the subject of 'what do you do' as to be quite honest i feel ashamed:o .I for one have and will ALWAYS show my dear old friends the greatest of respect....:dbgrtmb:
        There you go you see....I always feel i have to explain myself ...
        But i completley agree with what has been said, but it's very hard work trying to make a difference....:(
         
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          Actually, lolimac, you're doing yourself a dis-service. Your job is one of the hardest around and I sincerely take my hat off to you. I couldn't do what you do as I don't think I have the mental courage to deal with the every day caring incidents that you have to. I think you should still be proud of what you do as you make sure elderly people in need get through the day. So I say, lolimac.............take a bow:thumbsup::yess::D
           
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            I agree with Armandii 1000%.
             
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              I certainly don't feel I could do the job of working in a care home some of the stories my mum used to tell me when she was a cleaner at one were sad enough

              like the lady who had been mistreated at a previous home and was told that she wasn't allowed more then one toilet role a week (this lady had IBS and constantly need the loo) so she would stockpile toilet roll under her bed and always beg my mum for more when she was cleaning, when the lady eventually passed away they found over 300 hidden in her room:cry3:
               
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              Slightly off topic, but did anyone else watch 'The Queen's Hidden Cousins' on Channel 4 tonight? No less than four cousins spent their lives banged up in institutions. Just as well that K Middy has some good working class blood in her. :heehee:
               
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              I don't plan on letting myself get to the point of needing everything done for me. Is rather go on my own terms with my dignity intact.
               
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                I don't see taking care of an old person which have to have her basic needs attended as indignifying for him/her. Of course we are not pretty and nice smelling when we are old, but that is just nature's course, and I don't see it as horrible.

                Also to deprive son/daughters, partner etc. of our existence just because we want to die pretty, without considering the emotional needs of those whom we leave behind -which may want us alive no matter the state we are in- is egoistic and to me it doesn't show love and respect for them.

                PS I do agree though that if somebody is in great pain or find his/her situation unbearable a compromise should be found.
                 
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                I'm speaking in the case that I'm terminal or will shortly be so incapacitated that I will already be gone as the person that I am. It has nothing to do with dying pretty. As for the selfish part, I find it even more selfish that anyone I loved would want me to hang on in that state just because they would "miss" me. We treat our pets with more dignity and compassion sometimes than we do our family. When my Dad was ill I watched him slowly fade away until he wasn't even my Dad anymore and in massive amounts of pain despite the huge amounts of morphine they were giving him. Finally in the end he suffocated to death in front of my Mom. I can't imagine how horrendous that must have been. So yes if that was the path I was on I would choose to leave early while I was still ME!
                 
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                My mother spent eight years in a residential home and they treated her very well. Although they weren't a nursing home they allowed her stay and cared for her during her last year when she was suffering with cancer. Their comment about allowing her to stay there was "but this is her home!"

                They were all very caring and worked hard. :dbgrtmb:

                We were allowed to visit any time - day or night - and if we turned up at meal times we were offered a meal and sat with the residents at the dining table(s).

                Unfortunately, as they brought in more and more legislation there was more time spent in admin and less in caring. :(
                 
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                In my experience there seem to be more bad than good homes. However we go to the bad ones more often as they dont look after folk as well.
                My worst nightmare is ending up in one of those places. If my kids want my money they better buy me a one way ticket to switzerland before I get committed.
                As for prisons SOME prisons ive been in are like hotel rooms, nicer than the homes many of the degenerates come from, wheres the deterant there then?

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