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Discussion in 'Allotments Discussion' started by Anthony, Aug 11, 2008.

  1. Anthony

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    Hi everyone.

    I was driving home today and saw a sign for allotments for rent. This is most likely a private landowner with some land. I've been wanting an allotment for ages but before I call them I thought I'd get some advice about how much I should expect to pay.

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  2. Freddy

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    Hi Antony. I don't really know what price you should expect to pay, but I'd have thought that £25 a year for a reasonable sized plot would be fair. I'm looking for a plot myself. Any chance of letting me know where these plots are ? Cheers...freddy.
     
  3. Kandy

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    Anthony we pay £5 per 10 pole which is £15 for the 30 pole that we garden and that is on Private allotments that have been going for nearly 100 years and that includes water in with the price so we think it good value.We save that much just in not having to buy apples,pears, runner beans, shallots ,onions,carrots etc.:)

    Our village has just secured the tenure for some allotments about a mile from our village with a couple who own a nursery and they are charging £30 for 86 sq mtrs:eek:.Mr Kandy worked it out that for the eqivalent amount of land as our plots it would cost us £180 per year.

    You will have to see if there is a number that you can ring to discuss with the landowner exactly what is on offer.What ever he comes up with you need water laid on to be able to water your plants when you want.It would be difficult having to carry water in containers in the back of your car.:rolleyes:

    Please keep us informed of any progress you make.:thumb:
     
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    Hi Ant plots on our site are £8 per plot plus £5 water rates and £2 subs so we may be allowed to buy 'stuff' from the lottie shop.

    All we paid this year was for the water rates and subs as the guys were convinced we wouldn't be able to grow anything this year, this is the normal practice on our allotments and these are private so you can get away with some things that maybe you can't on council plots. Rates will vary throughout the country but as Kandy says it would help if you had water on the site.

    Wouldn't it be wonderful if you and Freddy managed to get an allotment on the same site just think of all the fun you can have!;)

    Good luck Ant/Freddy I think you should go for it after all some people have to wait years before they can get their own allotment.Hel.xxx.
     
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    I haven't got an allotment and know very little about them but I have been doing a few calculations. :thumb:

    Assuming that the land is reasonably fertile then £15 per plot (national average size is 250 sq m) would only give a farmer a small return on the value of the land. £25 would seem reasonable on both sides. :D
     
  6. Kandy

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    Shiney I have just been looking at some allotment websites and there was talk on there of 1 Acre being 4047 sq mtrs,so 1 pole is 5.5yds. Then they are saying that there is 30.25 sq yds to one pole.:rolleyes:

    We were always led to believe that 10 pole is just over 300 square ft?Now thinking about it I am not sure if even that is right.It gets quiet confusing when everyone talks about Poles/Rods/ Perch/ etc....yds, mtrs,acres,etc:rolleyes::confused::D
     
  7. FANCY

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    Our allotment is 9 acres and the plots are divided Into 200, 400 and 150 sq. yards. We pay for our plots 400 sq yards each £10 per year. no water bills or rates to pay. Our water on the allotment is on a meter but we still dont have to pay for water. i mostly use rain water as my allotment borders my garden and have access to 11 large water butts.
     
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    Kandy, I know it gets confusing but some of it is because they think of different things when they talk about a Pole.

    A Pole is 16.5 ft, 5.5 yds, 5.0292 m (that is linear measurement)

    When land agents and farmers used to talk in those type of measures they usually called an area of land in measurements of Poles but really meant Square Poles.

    A Square Pole is 272 sq ft, 30.25 sq yds, 25.293 sq m (that is square measurement)

    So most of what you said is correct. The only thing wrong is 10 Pole would normally be recognised as meaning 10 Square Pole and that is 2,720 sq ft or 302.5 sq yds (or 252.93 sq m).

    There are 160 Pole (Square Poles) to an acre.

    Fancy, your allotments work out at £10 for 13.223 Pole.


    My brain hurts :eek: :D :D :D
     
  9. Kandy

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    Thanks for that Shiney:thumb: I know it doesn't take much to confuse me with me being blonde and all that;):D.

    I think £15 for 30 pole including water is very good value,pity though the ones that let theirs grow like a jungle don't think the same way especially when they are the Chairman of our allotments:(

    So...if we have 30 pole how near an acre are we..answers on a postcard please:D:D
     
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    Blimey, it`s easy peasy to work out....innit ! :D
     
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    .1875 or three sixteenths or just under a fifth. :thumb: :D :D
     
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    Shiney you are so brainey I cant keep up with this, why cant figures be soo simple.
     
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    They are!!!! :thumb: :D :D :D :D
     
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    shiney: Being one of the younger members on this forum :rolleyes: I only understand metric, can you please convert all the above ?








    PS: only joking BTW :D
     
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    John, if you look more closely you will see that I have given the metric sizes ;) :thumb: :D.

    The only one I missed was that there are 395.36 Poles to a Hectare. :p :p :p
     
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