Another travesty of justice

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  1. clueless1

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7897143.stm

    Basically, a woman gets annoyed in the shop and phones her boyfriend. The boyfriend then intentionally comes to the shop, and hits somebody so hard they die. The bloke admits manslaughter.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the definition of manslaughter is when you kill someone through negligence but not through hostile intention.

    When you drive to a place with the sole purpose of attacking someone, and then that person dies, I always thought that was premeditated murder.
     
  2. Pro Gard

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    No sentence has been passed yet so we'll have to wait and see what the judge feels. Personally in my eyes punching someone with that amount of force is murder.
     
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    To be honest, people like that shouldn't be free to walk the streets amongst the rest of us, but there are an awful lots of them out there.

    Punching someone so hard that you kill them is murder as far as I'm concerned, but from a legal point of view I can't say.
     
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    I personally don't think it matters how much force was used. If someone dies as a direct result of a deliberate and premeditated act of aggression, it is murder. Even if it was a slight tap that caused the victim to have a heart attack and die, if the coroner finds that the person would not have died that day had they not been attacked, then it is murder, plain and simple.
     
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    Obviosly a clear case of murder, I would have no problems in hanging this guy he has forfeited his right to live,she should be charged with aiding and abetting.
     
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    Have to agree with you all here, what a coward - he took a competely innocent person by surprise - the victim was the not even the one who had supposedly pushed in.
     
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    Just heard that the person who caused this sickening attack has been sentenced for manslaughter. Here's hoping they throw the key away.
     
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    Probably 5/7 years (a long sentence by todays liberal standards) and parole after 3/4 - Justice??
    She should get the same, no really they should both get 15 years.
    Can't remember when I last saw a punishment fit the crime.:mad:
     
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    Hang him one day, but let it come as a surprise, just like it was for his victim, I really do like the US way of having a death row for such filth.

    And put her away till she's ninety, then hang her as well:D

    After all she was the instigator.
     
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    On most parts of the breaking of the law the deterent is not there, slap on the wrist or a conditional discharge community service not enough Im afraid for the scum that do all these crimes they are laughing at the justice system we have as a coroner once said to me many years ago the law is an ass
     
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    Previous convictions also. What a stupid country we have. A shame for the victims family they have lost a decent hard working man. Lock the nice chap up with his girlfriend and throw away the key. It won't happen but it would be nice.
     
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    Out after two years , typical. We wonder why these things happen.... look at the deterent, non existent.

    Life should mean life for murder and with proper sentences served in full for lesser crimes
     
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    And here we have another example of the impeccable logic of the British judicial system:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7987404.stm

    In an act of pure aggression, a lad throws a bottle into a pub full of people, kills a 27 year old mother of three kids, and gets a staggering four and a half years in jail. Oh but wait, that's ok because:

    I guess that makes it all alright then.
     
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    Hi Clueless I have just had a look at the Judges Previous cases ,Seems
    to have a habit of Leniency To put it Mildly:)
     
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