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  1. daz and debs

    daz and debs Gardener

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    hi there can any apple/pear tree be trained to grow up a fence ? Sorry new to gardening thanks ..daz
     
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    Victoria Lover of Exotic Flora

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    Not sure about apple, d&d ... but yes they can be trained against walls or trellises. My cousin has done it in Bedfordshire with a pear tree. I can't think what it's called, will have to dig my books old books out.

    Perhaps in the meantime someone else can advise on this. They look beautiful if you do it right.
     
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    It's called espalier or wall fruit.

    I'm not sure about apples either, have never heard of it, but pears are fine.
     
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    thanx verry much guys...daz
     
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    Hi .Yes you can get most Apple/pear trees as espalier trees. [​IMG]
     
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    Hi daz. I'm new at gardening too but found some two and three tierred trained apple trees at my local garden centre. They cost a whole lot more than a regular tree but I hope to have them all the way along my fence in a few years.

    We have red falstaffe and brambley and another cooker I can't remember the name of at the mo. I should think it'd be fairly easy to train them your self though.
     
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    As the subject is apple trees - has anybody grown an apple tree from a pip?

    I was eating a delicious Jonagold apple and as it had several good size seeds in it I wondered if it is worth planting them.

    I am not expecting miracles - I know they take years to grow.


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    jjordie:

    Worth a try as an experiment but most commercial apple varieties are hybrids and any cross pollination will not produce seed true to type. You may also get a weak spindly tree that never bears blossom or fruit.

    That said :D I know where there is a small tree (7'-8')growing on a local beach not 30ft from the tideline and it was covered in gorgeous blossom last year. It didn't set fruit so I assume it needed cross pollination and there are no other fruit trees near. It was probably the result of somebody's discarded apple core.

    So the short answer is, yes it can happen but you never know what you will get.
     
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    jjordie I bit into an apple a few weeks ago and the pips were actualy germinating couldn't resist so I potted some up and they are growing well
     
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    Thanks for replies. Now that I am back on line I can post a reply and say apple pips have been potted and we are watching for signs of germination.

    The Broadband cables in our area have been upgraded/replaced - we had a letter saying it would take up to four hours but it actually took two and a half days and several hours of that the telephone lines were disconected too. But I must say it seems to really improved the service as the ping time is almost instant! :D
     
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    You can grow espalier apple trees against a fence but I would recommend growing espaliers on wires in the open as the air can flow around them and you will get less problems with mildew or other diseases.
     
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    Just want to boast about my mini-apple tree! :rolleyes: It's in a pot, and this year has produced some really beautiful apple-blossom, [​IMG] I will try to upload a photo when I figure out how to do it.
     
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    I bought 1 year maiden apple trees from a nursery and trained them into espaliers and cordons, they work out a lot cheaper than trained trees. Don't let them fruit for the first 3 years then enjoy.

    Ask at the nursery for trees that fruit on spurs, as training espaliers and cordons you cut back all new growth during the summer to 2 leaves, and if a tree fruits on the ends of branches you finish up with no fruit the following year.
     
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    Jjordie I grew an apple tree from pip a long time ago. Unfortunately left it in the ground at last house 12 years ago. It was about 8 or 9 years old when I left and it hadn't fruited then. This is why they graft onto oler rooting stock. So earlier fruit can be had.
     
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