Area under a conifer

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    I am wondering if I can do something about one of the back corners of my garden - it only gets the full sun in the morning (it faces just south of east, at 105ยบ), and has a rather large thief parasite conifer right in the corner. Even grass won't grow within a certain distance, and my neighbours plum tree keeps launching up suckers in that are (which, so far, are the only thing to grow!).

    Now, it is starting to get to me, and I am wanting to grow something, anything, that looks a bit better than just a bloomin' conifer.

    What I am thinking of doing, is creating a raised bed (be it with sleepers, bricks or even that log roll edging stuff), but lining the bottom of it with weed suppressing membrane and then putting a decent layer of compost on top - even if it will only grow nasturtiums, I would be content. Would this work, or would the membrane allow too much drainage?

    Also, any suggestions for plants that would survive in a shady corner?
     
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    Well, I`m sure that would work - and there are loads of plants you could grow in there. but I wonder if you might consider removing the conifer ? If you cut it off to about 4 -5 ft, and maybe stick a bird bath saucer on top, you might grow more for letting the light in :)...OR, grind out the stump and dig a proper bed ?
     
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      If it were my property @Tetters, I would cut the blighter down in a heartbeat - sadly, I rent, and cannot do something so radical hence my thoughts of something that is at least reversible.

      What plants would you suggest?
       
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      I would spray those suckers asap. And keep an eye out for them when they re occur.
      Your idea is sensible I think.....viz., to create a raised bed. However a weed membrane at the base? :nonofinger:
      Plants for a shady spot? Brunneras..... Hadspen Cream is delightful. Currently its blue forget me not flowers here are very attractive. Astrantias too. Ferns like the japanese painted ferns are wonderful in a shady spot. Geranium Margaret Wilson has grey foliage and light purple flowers. Impatiens are ideal for shade but check out the Sunpatiens variety......disease free and bigger and more vigorous. The white ones will light up the shade.
      Have you considered Hackonechloa? A beautiful mounding then cascading grass....Old Gold is a classy yellow all summer. I use these grasses in containers and in the ground......a couple of pots of them will add height and variety there. The yellow heucheras too will enjoy the shade. Heucheralla Golden Zebra is a beauty. An evergreen carex like Testacea which has a unique olive/ foxy red foliage.
      Liriopes will enjoy it there.....evergreen grass like with purple spikes in autumn.
      Astilbes if you can get some manure or other moisture holding material in there....... check out Shogun. Brown purple beautiful foliage that will look good with the yellow heucheras or grasses. Or with white anemone Wild Swan. This flowers from mid May to autumn. Acteas too.....beautiful bronze large foliage and scented white pink flowers in late summer.
      Hostas of course......Fire and Ice will love the shade as will the pure yellows .
      I would not bother with a weed membrane unless it is used at soil level and then disguised with bark chips etc.
      So I would get as much organic matter in there as possible.
       
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        First, get the landlord by the scruff of the neck.....oops what am I saying :heehee:.....Clematis montana likes its feet in the shade - spring flowering, Fuchsias (hardy ones) like shade - late summer, Grasses (in variety) Vinca minor purpureis, for trailing, and in between some lovely twee bedding plants to jazz it all up. :hapydancsmil: I have imported builders bags of good topsoil from the builders merchants for my raised beds.

        PS....just read verdun`s post - you can tell who the proper plantsman is can`t you :yes:
         
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          :wow: Excellent suggestions! Thank you both! :)

          Time to get my sketch pad out and start planning......
           
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            Good luck then :thumbsup: show us a photo when it`s all done please.
            Oh yes - and why not change the bitching mood - puts me right off :sad:
             
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              No idea how I managed to set it to Bitching - I am definitely not bitching :)
               
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                Them green thumbs can get slippery - it couldn`t possibly be the drinking problem that you don`t have :whistle:
                 
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                A wee update to this - I bought four of these fellows today:

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                The plan is to use them to make something like this, with the black lines representing these log dividers

                (excuse the poor drawing!)

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                  I think that looks like a champion idea.....just one thought -:scratch:- have you actually spoken with your landlord? There is just a chance that he would quite like to get rid of that tree - or halve it, especially if you offer to pay all or part of the job ?????
                   
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                  I haven't, but truthfully I couldn't afford to do it properly this year anyway - if I can quickly knock something together to make it look half decent for now, I will be happy. :)
                   
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                  Hope you have a nice big heap of decent soil to put in there :)
                   
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                  A mixture of spent and new compost, ready to go! :)
                   
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