Australian tree fern

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  1. Ian Taylor

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    I'm thinking of getting a tree fern, just wondering if anyone as experience of them.
    How do you over winter them ?
    Is it better to buy a small one or a established one ?
     
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    A few of us on here grow them. They are not fully hardy so you should over-winter smaller ones in pots in a greenhouse. Bigger ones will survive in milder areas, some straw stuffed into the crown may help. They defoliate most winters so given all that I'd suggest you wait till the spring before buying.

    As far as I know they are all imported usually as logs, with the bottom chainsawed off. They will send out roots once you plant them but for a couple of years need support as they are top heavy. They are sold by the foot so it's up to your wallet if you want a small or bigger one. If you have any doubts that you can over-winter them then start with a cheaper small one.
     
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      During the growing season they need constant watering, I've got a dripper system set up on mine to constantly soak it. I've just taken off the drippers last weekend on mine, but they still need a bit of watering over-winter if we get a dry warmer spell.
       
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        Thanks for the advice, I was thinking of getting one as part of my wife's Christmas present, we were in a local garden centre and they had a few for sale, she said she liked them, so I thought thats something different.
         
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        Careful! I've seen them in garden centres and they were basically unrooted (I've pulled them out of the pots to check). Far better to buy from a specialist (IMO).
         
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        Could anyone recommend a specialist grower, been looking on ebay at some theres a grower of ferns in Wexford growing them, would sooner select it myself
         
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        Thanks for the call, longk. Well, although I never bought any thing from them personally I understand Marbury Hall Nurseries, The Old Walled Gardens, Marbury, Northwich, Cheshire CW9 6AT [O1606 74168]is pretty reputable and reliable. I would have recommended Bridgemere Nurseries just outside Nantwich but for me they are too much orientated to shifting a lot of stuff, are very expensive, and also have diversed a lot to other areas of selling rather than giving that proper Plant Nursery service. Tree Ferns ain't cheap so it will all depend on Ian's budget as to how big a Tree Fern he gets!!:snork::coffee: As an obvious add on it will be better to give Marbury a ring and talk to them first before driving out there.:snork:
         
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          Thanks for the advice, will give them a ring, been to Bridgemere Nurseries a couple of years ago not what I expected.
          Was thinking of spending about £50.
           
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            £50 should get you a Tree Fern, Ian, with around a 15cm [six inches approx] high trunk which doesn't sound high in length, whereas one with a 4 feet length could cost £135 onwards.:dunno: Either way, you will have to check that the Tree Fern you buy is not one that's just recently been stuffed into a pot.:coffee:I would check with a Nursery what height it is and how long it's been in the pot and again although I have put you onto Marbury Nurseries I have no idea what they have in stock.:scratch::snork:
             
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              I got my tree ferns from Seagraves. They have had sales during the winter in previous years, so might be worth waiting until closer to Xmas. I expect it will have to be an IOU though, as they usually are forward selling for new stock that arrives in February - ready for the Spring. You will thus get a "log" that is just off the boat from New Zealand and has the best chance of making a great spectacle in its first year and getting settled in promptly.

              http://www.seagravenurseries.co.uk/home/tree-ferns

              Note that if you buy one in-stock they will cut its ferns off for shipping (unless you collect it) so that twice it will have had that done - to ship to UK and again to ship to you. personally, I think that's a lot of stress on the plant
               
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                I got mine from Seagraves too, through the post - as Kristen says they come with the fronds chopped off but they soon pushed out new ones and have now established OK.
                 
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                  Tree ferns need a bit on minding in the winter months
                  To protect from the frosty weather you should:
                  keep the old fronds in place over the winter
                  Pack old newspaper into the top of the stem
                  And if you live anywhere north of London, wrap it up in a frost fleece

                  In spring you can remove the old frond in time for new shoots to appear.
                   
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                    I would not remove them until they are "dead" (or at the very least "dying" if their going yellow offends). Reason being that as they die, and new fronds appear, they will move outwards; whereas if you cut them off earlier they will harden and then not move out of the crown so easily / at all, that then crowds the crown making it more difficult for new fronds to unfurl and can cause the plant to put out fewer fronds as a consequence.

                    For the same reason it is worth trying to "dome cut" the top of a new "log" that you receive. They will come straight-cut at the top, as that is how they are prepared for export, but that too restricts the space in the crown.
                     
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                      Just done mine , I don`t cut my fronds untill May , when the new founds will appear
                      the secret is to protect the center of the crown with old fronds , palms leaves and so on ....water need to get inside and the plant need water even in winter .....dry plant =dead plant

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                      protect the crown with old cycad and mulching leaves

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