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  1. Michael04

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    Hi all,
    Advice please on when I should cut back my banana plant and how high from the soil?
    Thanks Michael IMG_20221019_121958.jpg
     
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    I've never cut mine back, sometimes removed a few leaves once they are blackened by the frost. Usually mine make it through the winter unprotected and sprout from the top of the stem. When I first grew them I would wrap them in fleece and straw. But mostly they survive without. If the stem gets killed off they have always regrown from the root, but these take a couple of years to get going. Mine are a reasonable size now, I think smaller plants need protection, or dig up some of the pups and store frost free for insurance.
     
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      Wait and see what others do. A lot depends on how sheltered your garden is.
       
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      Are those Cannas either side? How do you overwinter those?
       
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      Hi JWK,
      Thanks for your advice,yes they are Cannas first time I've grown them so I should have asked the same for cutting those back as well.
      We live in Swansea so do not get very hard frosts and where the plants are they are quite well protected.
      Should I leave the Cannas same as the Banana plant?
       
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      I don't leave cannas outside as they are slightly more tender than bananas. Mine are in pots so I can move them into a greenhouse. Wait till the first frost then chop the stems down to an inch above ground. I would dig them up and store them in slightly damp compost frost free. I have some years left them in the ground and covered them with a couple of inches of mulch (spent compost). Trouble is with outdoor cannas they take a very long time to emerge, so it's quicker to start them off in the spring in pots and compost, with some gentle heat.
       
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        That banana looks pretty thin stemmed to me, I dont think that would take much more than a couple of degrees of frost without being wiped out, I wonder if there is enough root there for it to come back should the main stem die.

        I'd not cut it back but would consider some protection after the first frost has killed the foliage.
         
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          Thanks both for your advice :blue thumb:
           
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            I'm assuming that the banana is M, basjoo.
             
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            Yes it is Pete.
            I bought it about a year ago.Left it in its pot over winter,outside in a sheltered position.I then planted it where you see now early summer.
             
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              Last winter was a very mild one, lets hope we get similar this year.:smile:
               
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              Even in a frosty winter climate I find that bananas, cannas, dahlia etc survive far better in the soil, as long as it doesn't get waterlogged! So a pyramidal/ cone-shaped 'jacket' during the worst periods and a deep mulch seem to do the trick.
               
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                But you get roasting temperatures all summer, we don't and I totally agree with @JWK that cannas are best lifted and brought on in a greenhouse early.
                In a cold spring you can be waiting until mid June before Cannas surface.
                 
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                  Our springs aren't that kind! But I take your point. Personally, I find it far more risky trying to keep the moisture-levels of rhizomes in pots just so....
                   
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                    I lift cannas and dahlias after the first frost, then store them dry in wood shavings. I restart them in March.
                    From what I remember, Swansea is comparable with my winter temperatures but you have higher rainfall. I'd chuck a load of straw around the basjoo as a mulch, this can then be moved off near Easter....that should keep it snug during the cooler months. When it's been in the ground for a couple of years, you'll get away without protection
                     
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