Banana Planting time

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  1. JWK

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    When would you recommend planting out bananas (Musa Basjoo) ?

    I'm waiting to buy and plant a couple plus other similary hardy tropicals in my new patio area. I think the last frost has happened here in Surrey but the nights are still a bit cool (down to 5 deg C last night). I don't want to buy some then lose them to the cold, yet I want to get some established asap for the summer :scratch:
     
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    I've still got my Musa Dwarf Cavendish in the Greenhouse, John, and it's staying there for another couple of weeks.:D
     
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      Mine are only a couple of inches high in 3" pots ... I reckon they are staying int eh greenhouse for a year, maybe two :(
       
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        Basjoo is growing away right now here, and only frost on the leaves will now damage a well hardened off plant.
        Cavendish is more tender and is only really half hardy at best, as far as I can tell.

        I've got what I believe to be a Musa zebrina in the conservatory going crazy, but I think I'll give it another month yet.
         
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          Kristen, I wish I had a greenhouse that big.:D
          What are they, BTW?
           
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          Thanks for the replies folks. I'm being very patient but it won't last, I've bought all the compost tonight and am flexing my credit card in preparation - I feel a visit to the Palm Centre coming on :)
           
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          Yes John, that feeling of impatience can drive you bananas:heehee::loll::yess: Sorry. couldn't resist it.:hapfeet::yahoo::D
           
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          You certainly have money burning a hole John, the palm centre?
           
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          I'm looking at the 80/110cm one for £17.50
          Hmmm, maybe that's a bit too small? The other one is too expensive.

          Can you recommend somewhere else pete?
           
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          One's 30' x 10' and the other one 12' x 10' ... oh ... the Bannanas? :heehee:

          Musa sikkimensis and Musa Sikkimensis Daj Giant - I figured they looked to be about the hardiest that could be grown from seed.

          Got less than 20% germination though ... :(
           
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          Mine are growing like mad already, new suckers unprotected all year :)

          Basjoo will be fine to plant out now :)

          Don't buy big, they grow like mad anyway ! the most important part is nurturing a good root/base plant which can sucker in the event of stem death due to either flowering or cold. Mine get decimated each year and walked over, yet still come late April the suckers appear :) The only banana which will survive this is basjoo, even protected the siki's will progressively die a little each year till gone, especially given the winters we have had. I used to be able to get an ensete through an outdoor winter with dedication, but no chance of late ! :)
           
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            So a Basjoo is one that would survive outside in West Cheshire??????? If so, what kind of soil would they be happy in, mine's a sandy neutral one.
             
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            HO ho ho:D

            Yes I think you are right on Sikki being the hardiest from seed, but I doubt it would get through the kind of winters we have had the last three years, even with protection.

            Basjoo is really the hardiest, I protected mine this last winter for the first time in years, and have managed to save a few short stems.

            Got a few cuttings potted up as well from last year.

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            It will be a year or two before I get it back to how it was in 2007

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              I had a basjoo in my old garden in Cheshire and the main stems grew to 10ft and it suckered - A LOT, producing a forest for want of a better word. Every neighbour in the street that was interested in gardening had a rooted sucker as a gift.

              I used to protect the stems with straw and fleece and leave the leaves sticking out the top and just cut them off when they got tatty. I never built anything around it and it came back every spring with no problems.

              It survived for 5 or 6 years on a slightly raised bed until the winters of the last two years proved too much for it, it was hit with -20 frosts for two years running and being so big my mum (who still lives there) couldn't manage to give it the protection it would have needed.
               
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