Bare Root Roses does and don'ts ?

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    Hi all,

    I have planted 5 x bare root roses in pots a few weeks ago.

    3 are growing madly (1 from a new stalk and not any of the branches)

    1 has a few little sprouts off a couple of branches

    1 seems to be dead, grey branches

    (I know branches is the wrong terminology, but you know what I mean)

    So do people have any does and don'ts (or comments on my progress?)
     
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    Hi all,

    I have planted 5 x bare root roses in pots a few weeks ago.

    3 are growing madly (1 from a new stalk and not any of the branches)

    1 has a few little sprouts off a couple of branches

    1 seems to be dead, grey branches

    (I know branches is the wrong terminology, but you know what I mean)

    So do people have any does and don'ts (or comments on my progress?)
     
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    Just do the finger nail test by scraping a tiny part of the top layer off if it is green underneath then its OK

    Hi TFG what size pots are they in,what type of compost have you used,and what are thier names,sorry about all the question but it is imperative that we can give you the correct information and advice on your Roses my friend:smile:

    Ps we know what you mean by branches ,we shall call them canes;)
     
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      Names of the roses

      Queen Elizabeth
      Pascali
      Peace
      Arthur Bell
      Scarlet Queen Elizabeth - (One that looks dead)

      Pots: Big round (30cm from Memory)

      Compost: John Innes Compost No.3 (which I added a peat mix to)
       
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        Hi TFG you got the Compost spot on my friend,I'm just a little concerned with the size of the pots if they are 30cm(12 inch) then they are to small,Roses have deep shallow roots ,I respectfully suggest pots of at least 45cm(18 inches) to 60cm(24 inches),Queen Elizabeth is a very vigorous grower if left alone my Queen Elizabeth reaches 5 ft plus,please don't forget to raise your pots off the ground and they must have good drainage in the bottom of the pots (crocks/stones) and their position in the garden is paramount at least 6 hours of sun, If I have missed anything or you need any other question answered we are here to help and advise you my friend:smile:



        Queen Elizabeth---Floribunda
        Pascali--------------Hybrid Tea
        Peace---------------Hybryd Tea
        Arthur Bell--------Floribunda
        Scarlet Queen Elizabeth - (One that looks dead) Floribunda
         
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          Thank you Wise Owl,

          I will double check the pots (though I have been naughty and put 2 roses in 1 pot, so 2 pots of 2 and 1 pot of 1 roses)

          The pots are on trays, though they are raised so not sitting in any water. Pots are all indoors at the moment, as I believe it is too cold outside at the moment for the new growth.

          As soon as the weather has started to warm up I was going to move the roses to much bigger pots outside.
           
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            Good afternoon TFG If it were me I would put them outside now it won't hurt them but that's only what I would do,you don't want any new growth now they should be in their dormant state,when you say indoors I hope that not anywhere near central heating,if you need anything else there are many of us with good knowledge of Roses here at Gardeners Corner,so just feel free to ask :smile:
             
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              Erm they are in a very warm kitchen, I am guessing that is why they are growing like crazy .. oppss... (Live and learn)
               
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                No worries my friend just cool them down gradually they will be fine;)
                 
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                Just out of interest, why did you put them in pots and not in the ground?
                 
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                I noticed in another thread that Wiseowl has given you some advice, which I support. Adding to that, roses are hungry and thirsty shrubs and you will find it difficult to maintain them when grown in pots, especially if the pots are too small. Patio roses are smaller and are fairly happy in pots but to be honest you would be better planting them in your garden. :)
                 
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                  Didn't realise there were two threads with the same title ... could Admin amalgamate them? @Zigs
                   
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                    I've done the same (in cold gh though) because I had to clear an area of brambles and plant a little box hedge first. Is it better to plant out sooner rather than later?
                     
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                    Good evening Charliebot the only proviso is not to plant in a frost when the ground is hard as it could kill the roots,you have to use your own judgement but as soon as you think the frost has gone then plant them out,but in a cold G/H they will be fine for a while,hope this is some help to you:smile:
                     
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                    Thank you :spinning:
                     
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