Beef Tomatoes.

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  1. Freddy

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    Hi chums. In the greenhouse I have some beef tomatoes, Fawyort or something ? Any road up, how many trusses and how many to a truss should I go for ?
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    I think number of trusses in a greenhouse is based on two things:

    1) If the plants hit the roof then you either have to "stop" them, or "lay" then - lower them down, along the ground, and then up the next cane/support along, or skip a support and up a support two further down; this is, in effect, what they do commercially - they train up string which is held on a special peg (i.e. twisted round it to hold a ball of string) which is on a training wire, a bit of string is unwound and the peg/ball of string moved a bit further along.

    2) "Stop" the plant one month (say) before the first frost, to give time for the remaining fruit to ripen. I'm guessing one month is about right.

    I think the whole idea of "grow N Trusses" is flawed because it depends on when the seed was sown, and how well / fast the plants have grown, whereas in fact they will produce fruit continuously until the temperature gets too cold ...
     
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    Hi Kristen. Do you therefore say that the same applies to beef tomatoes ? Having just checked elsewhere (before I saw your post) it SAYS to stop after 4 trusses. It didn't however say how many to a truss.
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    I think a truss is a truss - it holds however many fruit "set". I don't grow Beef Toms, so I don't know for sure, but I've never heard of thinning a Tomato truss (thinning grape bunches, yes, but I can't remember reading of thinning anything else)

    It may be that a Beef Tomato plant can't successfully hold more then 4 trusses, but I think the norm for seed packet instructions is to decide on a number of trusses that represents a "normal average gardeners growing season" - which we all know is a very wet-finger-in-air approach!

    Hopefully someone more knowledgeable on Beef Tomatoes can confirm if the plant needs to be "restricted in output", or "stop well before first frost"
     
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    I'm afraid I've never had any luck growing beef tomatoes, I only ever seemed to get one or two ripen per plant, so can't offer any advice here. I've always let the plant do its own thing, which is where I might be going wrong, I'd be interested to hear if anyone does think you should thin the trusses.
     
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    hi freddy this is last years crop i had 6 truss on mine

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    Hi there. Those look like Marmande. I thought they were meant ONLY for outside growing ?
    Cheers...freddy.
     
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    I've grown beef toms but like JWK, not too successfully. The first truss would always have a few decent sized tomatoes and it was downhill from there on. :hehe: So limiting the trusses to three or even two and thinning them makes sense. I also think they are hungry feeders and need more frequent liquid feeds and of course lots of water. Good luck.
     
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    Interesting thread guys, please keep it going, as I have some "Armish Paste" growing for the first time and I think they tend to be a bit large beefish type.
    robert
     
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    I have put a note on the door to feed my beefy toms tomorrow! I have loads of small green toms on it at the moment, not usually a variety that I grow but thought I'd try this year. I have italian plum tomatoes and oodles of gardeners delight - they are always a failsafe option.
     
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    Hi folks. My 'gut' feeling is to restrict it to 4 trusses and 4 per truss. If no-one says otherwise, that's what I'm gonna do :thumb:
    Cheers...freddy.
     
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    Well, that can't do any harm :thumb: - other than "cap" your yield. Better to get some decent fruit though, I reckon.
     
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    Just checked Dr Hessayon and for the beefsteak variety "Big Boy" he says "The most popular giant, producing fruit which weighs 1 lb or more. For this sort of size disbud to three fruits per truss"

    Of Beefsteaks Joy Larkcom says "Rarely performs well outdoors in cool climates"
     
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    :gnthb:

    I've got Dr Hessayon sitting on my desk, I must remember to read it sometimes.
     
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    There is so much data in there, so succinctly presented, that it takes some reading to extract all the nuggets. A good memory would probably help - at least you know where your copy is :D
     
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