Black marks on rose leaves

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  1. Surfer

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    We have recently seen what looks like black marks on the leaves of one of our rose bushes. Can any one tell us what it is and what we should do to get rid of it. Just hope it is not some sort of disease. See pic.
     
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    Hi Surfer looks like black spot from this view.:) But no worries just remove all the infected leaves and dispose of them(Burn or Dump)Not on the Compost heap and collect any that have fallen on the grounds as that is where the spores will live,I have it on some of mine,its the Ideal weather conditions(warm,rain,damp)

    Have a look at this thread:)

    http://www.gardenerscorner.co.uk/fo...amily-their-cures-reference-sheet-t20297.html
     
  3. Surfer

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    Thanks. Probably get some sulphur spray later today as we don't want it spreading to the other roses.
     
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    With respect, may I ask
    Apart from being unsightly on the leaves does the black spot do the flowers any harm ?
    If the leaves are really badly affected - all the leaves - should they all be picked off and leave the plant denuded.
    I've had roses with the leaves with blackspot but they flowered wonderfully.
    Fortunately I don't have it now (I thought it was down to pollution in my last garden)
    Is there anything I can do to avoid it.
     
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    Not a rose grower by any means but as I understand it black spot being a fungal disease is actually killed by pollution, which is why sulphur is used as a remedy.
    i've seen some rose bushes without any leaves by August around here and they look awful, one reason why I dont bother with roses.
     
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    Good evening Alice ,To be perfectly honest there are so many different opinions on this question,so I can only answer it based on my past growing and showing experiences,I personally would say no it does,nt harm the blooms, as I have in the past managed to enter and win(Only on two occasion's)
    some blooms from Roses which did,nt have a leaf on the canes,because I has to remove them,when I had a bad black spot year once,but as soon as I took the blooms off I then pruned them as the black spot weakens all the bush.

    To your 2nd question yes it is imperative that you remove all the leaves if they were left it would seriously weaken the whole Rose for its future growth.


    1.I always mulch my Roses with bark and always water them at the base and never from the top(over the leaves of the Rose )always in the morning and not of an evening.

    2.When i position my Roses I always leave at least 2ft between each Rose for air circulation,and make sure that they get at least 6 hours of sun.
    I hope that this goes someway to answering your question.

    The spores of black spot fungus thrive in warm, moist environments. Spores will germinate after 7 hours of being wet and when the temperature is between 65 F and 75 F. The warmer the weather, the quicker the disease spreads unless the temperature goes above 85 F which will then inhibit the disease.
     
  7. Surfer

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    We live in the country so no pollution here, well not like in the cities. As it is probably about that time now, we will probably prune the roses right down at the same time removing the leaves with fungus on them. Only one plant was affected.
     
  8. Blueroses

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    I get black spot badly on one particular rose. I started spraying my roses early Spring as soon as the new red shoots appeared, at fortnightly intervals. I seemed to have quite good success, but over the past few weeks it has started to appear :mad::mad::mad: Do I have to keep treating them through the Autumn/ Winter when there are no leaves ?

    Thank you

    Blue
     
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    Good morning Blueroses I should continue for now if they are coming back into bloom, but for the winter I would stop treating them and then give them a prune,some Rose growers do their main prune in November and have done for years and then just a tidy up in Feb/march,In the 60,s most Rose growers pruned in November and the results were no different.I strongly believe that there are no hard and fast rules in gardening,just what suits your individual taste the best ,after trying first of course ie.one year prune in November,and the next in Feb/March:)
     
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    Thank you WOO. That's very informative.
     
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    Thank you Alice I just love every aspect of Roses and talking about them most of all:thmb::)
     
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    We have had pretty much no black spot all Summer, and only sprayed them a couple of times (despite best-intentions and a reminder in my Electronic Calendar that has been bugging me repeatedly!! to spray them every two weeks).

    We now have a lot of black spot, having had a very wet Autumn and now some mild weather.

    I agree with WOO that having their leaves mucked about with by the fungus weakens the plant, and that then means it gets more diseases. People who come here always remark how healthy my Roses look - well ... its not that I mollycoddle them I'm afraid, I just don't have time. But we are pretty fanatically about removing diseased leaves, and we do spray "now and again".

    WRT the perennial :) debate on pruning.

    I find that wherever I cut in November there is some die-back on some stems by Spring. So from that I have concluded that cutting half-way back in November (to stop the plants being knocked / rocked about by the weather) and then pruning hard in February seems to be for-the-best as the outward facing bud I prune to is not on a stem that then has die-back from the cold.

    One trick I learnt years ago - when pruning to an outside bud if there is another, bigger / more prominent "inner" bud a bit lower down which is not one you want to flourish, then just scrap it off with the secateurs' blade. Roses will sprout from pretty much anywhere, so no guarantees, but it does help you get control of the plant a bit :thumb:
     
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