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Bogey plants.....

Discussion in 'General Gardening Discussion' started by Fat Controller, May 21, 2017.

  1. Fat Controller

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    And no, I don't mean plants for bogs :biggrin:

    I mean bogey plants, as in what plants are your bogey? What plants can you not grow (if any), no matter how you try, and yet you cannot understand why?

    For me, it is Lupins (I love them, but they never seem to do for me) and Delphiniums - seeds sown this year didn't even germinate!
     
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      Kirengeshoma palmata especially and most woodland plants in general. Although, now the trees are getting to a decent size I might try yet again:) Then there's Plumeria (frangipani). I manage to keep them alive during winter, inside the house, but lose them in the Spring, usually through overwatering too soon:wallbanging: On the bright side, bindweed, fat hen, couch grass and bryony all grow extremely well :biggrin:
      Have you tried species or tree lupins, FC? Perhaps they'd do better than the hybrids?
       
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        Dierama have been reluctant to grow in my improved sandy soil.:dunno: I'm making a special project of trying to grow them this year with 3 varieties planted in the central border, but they don't seem to want to flourish at the moment. I have three more of the same varieties in the Green House as a backup.:snorky:
         
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          pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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          Always wanted to grow Embothrium coccineum, had about 5 attempts over the years but they always end in failure.
          Given up now.
           
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            I must admit, I have thought about tree lupins but never got beyond that point. Suppose I best wait to see what I buy at Shineyland next week before I go buying any :snorky:
             
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              You'll be going home, FC, with a car full!!:heehee::loll::lunapic 130165696578242 5:
               
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                @ARMANDII.....did you see the enormous clumps of Dierama growing in pure clay at Great Dixter? They were about 5' across! If you need some clay, just say the word..I'll send you some!
                @pete I know what you mean .....you can only battle nature so far :)
                 
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                    I need a few dozen truck fulls, noisette, as I garden on a depth of over 350' of pure sand. Cheshire used to be, thousands of years ago, under the sea and it shows!! As I've said before, I have an old disused Roman Sand Quarry about 25 yards from the front of my House. Some of my roses struggle, depending on the variety, as they would rather grow on clay. Having said that, I do like it being an easy soil to work with a fork and spade.:heehee:
                     
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                      Last year was lobelia and petunia from seed..not bothered this year, they're cheap enough!

                      Salvia forsakolii (longks) didn't germinate. Twice I tried, twice I failed. 2 other salvias are going great guns.
                      Latana camara. Not one. It did say 42 days to germination but tough tits I can't wait that long. Also, some petit grid de rennes melons and aubergines. Zilch.
                      Not my fault but some cat or wind took my nicotiana out so given up fags..
                       
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                        I mostly garden with Hardy Perennials with very few annuals, and most of the last are self seeded, so I very rarely grow on Hardy Perennials but buy those that I've "just gotta have!!"
                        So it's a real pain to discover something you really want in the garden will not flourish. I can't grow Rhododendrons, Azealias, etc due to my alkaline soil......but I'd still like to grow them:doh::heehee:
                         
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                          How about bunging them in pots @ARMANDII ?
                           
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                            I've tried that over the years, Linz, but they never look so good as in the borders and the ericaseaus compost never seems to stay acid for long.:wallbanging::snorky:
                             
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                              Swings and roundabouts....the roses here are magnificent but the soil is workable for about three weeks of the year!
                               
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                                Hardy orchids - though I have a good clump of epipactis that increases every year, dactylorrhiza are only reluctantly hanging on in same area of soil, and cypripedium just look at me and die. I've spent a fortune on them over the years. Even in pots in well drained gritty soil, they get some sort of rot. Ho hum.
                                @noisette47 - I have found with plumeria that you just have to hold your nerve. Despite feeling sorry for them, you have to wait until the buds at the top are DEFINITELY growing before watering. And even then, give very little and let them get very dry before gving more. I have some seed grown ones that have great trunks and 2 feet tall, so hoping for flowers soon! (I'll now probably kill them this summer...)
                                 
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