Brand new 'garden city' to be built

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    I was wondering myself what a 'garden city' is. Found this on t'internet.

    I don't know why some reports are saying it's the UK's first garden city - there's Welwyn Garden City.
     
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    Garden Cities were an idea for building new communities of affordable housing to allow low paid works to move from inner cities. They were supposed to allow for green areas and for each house to have its own garden.

    At the turn of the century they started building Letchworth Garden City and followed that with Welwyn Garden City in 1919. They were successful communities but didn't quite work as was expected and cost too much per unit.

    The idea was followed, after WWII, by the New Towns Act of 1946. This was supposed to rebuild the war devastated urban communities and many new towns were built, outside of large conurbations, to allow for this.

    In the 1950's they built a number of them. Some were a rebuild/extension of an existing town, such as Corby, and some were completely new towns, such as Basildon, Harlow, Stevenage and Hemel Hempstead. These last four were built to help move people out of a very much overcrowded East End of London and part of north London).

    They still allowed for a lot of green areas and were funded by the government and built and run by Development Corporations. Anyone getting a job in these towns got a house with the job - at a reasonable rent.

    The Corporation owned all the land including the industrial and commercial areas. They specified what type of businesses/shops could move in and controlled how much competition was allowed. This was to encourage businesses to move to the town. Each business was allocated a number of houses they give offer with the jobs. This was the incentive for people to move out from the inner city areas they had been brought up in. They were only allowed to offer the houses to people from the pre-determined areas.

    This was a very good method for moving people from the overcrowded inner city areas and to get businesses to move into the area.

    New towns were built all over the country but the most successful ones, at the time were those around London.

    I don't think that the proposed town in Kent will work on that basis but there will have to be some form of incentive.
     
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      Apparently my neighbourhood, which when built was a seperate town to Redcar but later merged as Redcar spread out, was a garden city. In our case, the term city is very misleading, as my neighbourhood, built primarily to house the steel workers, is only about 1 square mile and has no cathedral or university, nor a big enough population to be classed as a city. Its basically several open squares and lots of green space, and all the houses have a garden (with the notable exception of the brand new shoe boxes just down the road, and the scruffy flats in one of the squares).

      The older folk round here go on about its heyday in the 1950s, when apparently it was beautiful, and people actually took pride in their gardens. Most round here still do, but unfortunately enough don't such that it brings it down a bit, and one of the open green spaces always has great muddy tyre tracks in it caused by the idiot who has a proper off-road 4x4 (i.e. a modified Defender with jacked up suspension and extra nobbly tyres etc), who seems to think that proper hard core extreme off-roading involves driving from his drive, across the road onto the flat green, then driving back into his drive.
       
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      Mrs Scrungee studied 'Garden Cities' as part of a Post Graduate Diploma and reckons that this proposal is nothing like the earlier schemes as it isn't linked to a major employer/philanthropist/etc..

      My own observation is Local Authorities no longer have the resources to maintain huge planting schemes, parks, fountains, etc., and current planning laws would allow householders to destroy that what's been built.
       
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      Not necessarily. As my solicitor explained to me when I was buying my gaff, quite separate to planning laws, there are development restrictions that can be placed on a property (I think the term was 'deed of covenant' or something). For example, lets say I wanted to turn part of my front garden into a second parking space. I could get all the planning permission needed then still get fined for for doing it and ordered to put it back how it was, because there is one of those things in the deeds that says I have to compensate the people of my neighbourhood for any changes to their town:) (which later migrated to mean I have to apply to the council separately for permission and give them some extra money).
       
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      Apparently its going to solve the housing shortage in the S.E. :lunapic 130165696578242 5:
       
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      Only the shortage in that tiny portion of the S.E. :heehee:

      The Garden Cities were partly sponsored by companies. The New Towns were funded by government.

      A lot of the New Towns had 'covenants' on what could and couldn't be done with the house and garden. A typical 'covenant' was that no front garden could have a hedge or fence higher than 18". This was to keep the green, open, aspect to the roads so that, when you drove down the road, you could see a vast expense of green in front of the houses.
       
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