Broad beans outdoors, still not germinated?

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  1. Sarah Giles

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    Sowed some broad beans outside last month and they've still not shown any sign of germinating. Does it take longer when sown direct or should I presume it's a failed batch and resow?
     
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    They are usually pretty quick to germinate so assume the worst.
     
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      I thought as much! Will try another batch and maybe dig in a big more compost to help them out.
       
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      Has it even been warm enough? With the cold and wet that we've had they may well have rotted.
       
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        Compost won't help germinate them. I would be tempted to add more drainage based on the weather we've had.
         
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          Hard to say, I have a batch in my back garden with similar soil (heavy clay) that I planted after propagating which are growing fine (albeit slowly), but the same ones I planted as seeds in the allotment haven't gotten started at all. There's been no frosts and it's been somewhere between 4-10 degrees most days. Bar the torrential rain we've been having now it's just been the odd april showers.
           
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            Fair point, what would you recommend? I'm still a noob at this :)
             
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            Could be Mice. I never bothered sowing direct, preferring to grow under cover (cold greenhouse) in Root Trainers. Root Trainers aren't cheap (around £8 for a 32 cell kit), but are very durable so last for years, and they were great for Broad Beans. Another bonus is that there won't be any gaps in the rows. Of course, if you grow lots then the cost might be prohibitive, but I think they make a good investment :blue thumb:
             
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              As I think I said in another post, (as you get older you start to repeat yourself), its soil temperature that governs germination.
              An air temperature of 4 C will germinate nothing, 10C for a few weeks might just raise soil temperatures enough to germinate broad beans.

              Once you see millions of weed seeds germinating you know the ground is warm enough for the hardy stuff, like broad beans.
               
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                I planted 16 in root trainers in the cold frame but its a no show so far so going by the above posts it seems mine are a goner too. Sowing some new ones this time inside where its just a bit warmer.
                 
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                  I wouldn't say they are a gonner, just not warm enough to germinate.
                   
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                    Had another look today and spotted a seed above the soil so I wonder if they've been nabbed by some form of creature. The seed had started rooting but that was it.

                    Is it worth resowing with fleece over them to stop the mice etc?
                     
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                    It won't stop a mouse. Got a spare shed window?
                     
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                      Nope. hmmmm.

                      Are they after the seeds specifically? Would it help if I started them off indoors and then moved them out would they eat the plants too? Apparently there's also a lot of rabbits so have already had to barricade carrot patch..
                       
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                      this is not a photo of a broad bean but it is another member of the Fabaceae family..............
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                      You can see how the two halves of the bean have opened up into "wings" - had your beans opened up like this one?
                       
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