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  1. Jiffy

    Jiffy The Match is on Fire

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    For years we had slow broadband 1-5 Mbs, well, living in the middle of nowhere we have had a letter say we will be able to have fast broadband :yikes: 30-1000Mbs 30Mbs = £39.99 a month and 1000Mbs = £79 a month
    Think they are laiding fibre about 6 miles away, so may be a christmas present:cool:

    Can't wait :biggrin: only problem if we take the 1000mbs i won't be on here much because it will be so fast :loll:
     
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      Well, unfortunately, Jiffy, if a House has a copper telephone internal terminal it won't matter how fast the fibre optic is as the copper wiring in the House will reduce it back to what it was before.
      :doh::wallbanging::dunno:
      Open Reach (BT) brought in a working crew to install new Telegraph poles into my area carrying optic fibre and connected them to the old phone hubs as though that solved the problem and that we would all get "super fast" Broadband immediately.........it didn't and we don't.:doh: Unless our Houses are re-equipped with replacement optic fibre terminals then we're stuck with the slow rate. I think their priority has been to install optic fibre in areas with ducted roads first and then deal with the likes of my area later.
      I believe you can get a optic fibre box installed in your House but, I understand, that will only be done if you sign up for a package contract with say, BT, Virgin, Talk Talk, and they will charge a fee for the installation. I'm with Sky regarding my Broadband, phone line, etc, and haven't got around to asking them if they can/will replace the copper terminal but, should they be able to, it will be BT Open Reach that will install it:doh:
       
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        I'm not sure but I'm with Virgin and the cable from the road is copper, always has been.:scratch:

        I'm not sure that short amount of copper slows it that much.

        Slow broadband, as I understood it, was down to miles of copper cable being used over long distances.

        I think the biggest factor slowing things down is mostly the Wi Fi.:smile:

        Seems a bit expensive @Jiffy if that is just the price for broadband
         
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          I cannot find the figures at the moment, but we lived 4.5 km from the nearest Fibre optic supplied cabin (the green boxes at the roadside) and the speed dropped to virtually nothing in that distance.
           
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            So what speed are you getting @ARMANDII ?
             
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              As it's going to be new fibre coming out this far will be good even if we don't go for it and others do then the old wire may get faster because of no other trraffic :biggrin:
              Being very very rural it's nice to see we don't get must and this is a start :thumbsup:
               
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              Surely they are replacing the wire aren't they?
               
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              They put two fibre boxes in our village two years ago. We're a mile from one of the boxes (so on copper from there) and BT promised it would speed up our internet. Unbelievably, it did.

              Our download speed used to be just under 3Mbs and upload speed .7Mbs. It's now 13Mbs and 3Mbs. So considerably faster but I wouldn't pay extra for their stated high speed service. They agreed that I couldn't get any higher speed.

              Last renewal they did put the charge up by £5 per month but I think it's only £18 p.m. including landline and 500 minutes p.m. landline and mobile calls.
               
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                Well, I'm at work in Chester at the moment, pete, so I'll check it when I'm Home tonight but I'm pretty sure it will be abysmal. It doesn't matter who is your supplier as the original basic system was laid by BT and the "Supplier" is merely using that antiquated system:doh:
                I've got a top end Desk Top at Home, for work and domestic use, with a AMD Ryzen 9, 12 Core Processor 3.79 GHZ, and 64GM RAM, with all the other technical bits and bobs but that only helps with my work tasks, not with accelerating the Broadband speed.
                I use Sky for TV, Landline Telephone, Broadband, and have the SKY Q Router but it's still that old copper terminal that doesn't allow that me to have that "Super Fast" Broadband speed.:wallbanging:
                 
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                  I've got Virgin and they have always used fibre, the cables were laid around here about 30yrs ago I'd guess, and as far as I know never used the old GPO cabling.

                  But they still use copper cabling from the road to your house, but the distance is a few feet rather than miles, similar to you connecting your pc by cable, that part will be copper I'm thinking, but that copper cable will still be faster than Wi Fi.
                   
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                    We've also got fibre in the road with the original copper wiring into the house.
                    I had a bt 'infinity' router and it all works well.
                    Only thing that annoys me with bt, is that soon after you install their 'fastest best mega router' a letter comes through the post every few months asking if you want even more of this and more of that.
                    Just pay another this or that per month for guaranteed this or that.
                    But that's what you've told me I'm already paying for?
                    Even if my monthly bill was £900 I'm sure they'd be offering me something 'better' at £910..
                     
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                      To be honest, pete, I don't know:dunno: I deliberately don't use Wi-Fi as, in my opinion, it's insecure.

                      Well, that's the point, pete, because the old copper cable from the optic fibre terminal to your House is the old BT old copper cable system so, in a sense, you still are using the old BT GPO system:dunno: The length of the copper cabling doesn't really matter as the distance from Hub to House is usually not enough to add to the slowness of the copper system.
                       
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                      @Jiffy - have you seen @Cuttings broadband solution for rural areas in this recent thread.
                      Viorgin Media - Magic Words

                      Its a method we had not heard of and possibly better if your new fibre has to travel the last six miles on the old BT copper wire, which as we were once told being in a similar distance from our local BT fibre exchange would limit the speed to around 30mbs, though thats generally good for most things except big video downloads and gamers or lots of folk using the same line in the same household.
                       
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                        Your still not grasping it,:smile: my phone and broadband dont use any BT cabling, virgin use their own and they always have all the time I've had it which is more than 20 yrs.
                        If I still had their TV that would come in on their cables as well.
                         
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                          So, what you're saying is that you have optical fibre direct to your House and that you don't have a copper terminal for your phone line installed in your House?:scratch:
                           
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