Builder / architect question

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  1. Loofah

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    I'm thinking about doing up the kitchen. It's a bit knackered but serviceable so I'd like better layout and ideally space.

    The house has a miniscule extension which creates a dead area that I want to use. As it makes a hole through the original wall ( my assumption) I would think an rsj would run across the opening. In order to square off the room this would need extending I think which is really the question - is it doable and worth the efforts?! I've added a couple of pictures to hopefully help...
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    The sketch is the wrong orientation and the bold line shows current layout and the red where I'd like to square off. This would enable the units to run to the end of the room
     
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    Are you saying in between the coats and the cupboard is the space you want to open up?
     
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    It looks like there would be a lot of disruption and expense for what looks less than 1m2 of additional floorspace (appears to be only about 900 x 700mm). If an 'RSJ' (correct term these days is Universal Beam) has been used it probably only extends part way into the cavity wall at the end to be extended and a site welded, plated, bolted connection to a UB stub extension projecting into a new cavity wall squaring off the corner might be possible, but I would class that as a question for a Structural Engineer, rather than Architect/Builder.

    There could be a lot more work involved if a steel/concrete lintel has been used. When was it extended and would your local Building Control (perhaps too small for Planning?) department still have records. Perhaps these were requested by your Conveyancer when you purchased?

    What's externally in the corner to extended over? (manhole, underground drainage, etc., as there could be a reason why that oringinal extension never went full length).

    (Is that pitched ceiling to avoid the inelegant appearance of some extensions that have the pitched roof above extending almost right up to the underside of bedroom window cills above?
     
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    More or less. It just allows the left hand wall to continue down and provide more usable space.
     
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    This was done way before I bought the place and I haven't found any plans yet. I've assumed it's an extension but could I suppose have been the original design. I'll have to get someone over to look at it in any event and am definitely expecting huge cost! I would gain only a small space but that space would open up the entire room and allow a lot more storage.
    Where the extension would go is just patio, nothing underneath, and yes I think the pitched bit is for aesthetics.

    PS when did an rsj become a universal beam?!
     
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    One big difference I've noticed between kitchens here and over the water is that we do not put laundering equipment in ours. We have it in a separate room or the cellar. I think that not having the kitchen function as anything but a kitchen usually results in more storage. It's interesting to see these differences.
     
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    Some houses have a utility room for ge washing machine etc usually just off the kitchen Lori. Wish I had one!
     
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