Bulbs - electric light bulbs!

Bulbs - electric light bulbs!

I have just been reading that the EU is saying we must use enrgy saving bulbs
and the ordinary light bulb must be discontinued. Shops will not have any more
deliveries after their present bulbs are sold. This has led to people stock piling
- if they can find a shop that still has any to sell!!

I have been quite happy with the bulbs we have been using and anyway
reports say there is not a lot of difference in the amount of energy used,
the new ones are not suitable for peoples' fittings, you can't use them
with a dimmer switch and some take 5 minutes or more to warm up.
They are also more expensive and cannot be disposed of easily because
they have toxins or was it mercury? and people prone to headaches
and migraines will be more susceptible as these bulbs are not bright enough.

Well, are you stockpiling or do you like these dim energy saving things?


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We've 17 'normal' and 11 energy saving bulbs and would use more enery saving bulbs but for the fact that we have 4 x 4 bulb fittings that use high light output halogen bulbs and energy saving bulbs won't fit them. I'll replace the light fittings next time I decorate.
Some, mainly older model, energy saver bulbs do take a few minutes to warm up to full output, but there are now plenty that are more or less instant. In the room I'm sitting in there is a three bulb ceiling fitting at one time I had 3 x 60w bulbs in it. I now have 3 x 14w bulbs each rated at =75w (800 lumens) light output so instead of burning 180w, I'm now burning 42w and enjoying a slightly brighter room.

Do I like 'em? Yes, I'm laughing all the way to the bank.

 

I don't see how the EU has the right to dictate to us like they do. It's like when for years they actually had regulations about the shape and size of fruit and veg.

As for the bulbs situation, I do agree that energy saving bulbs definitely have their place, but so do ordinary incandescent bulbs. We have energy saving bulbs throughout our house and we are generally fine with them, but the light quality is noticeable different. The only issue I have is that one of my books, a mountain bike route quite uses colour coded symbols to grade the routes, with purple being easy and black being extreme. Under the energy saving light I can't make out the difference in the colour

 

All but 4 of my bulbs are the energy efficiant ones. My sons room has a dimmer so can't have one in there :( and have a three bulb light in the kitchen and it takes those little silver screw fit things.

I must say that I've never bought a single E E light bulb, they've all come free to me from either the council (usually when they need to spend a bit more money to up the budget for next year) or when energy providers have been doing their "now miss twells this survey will only take 10 mins of your time, we won't pass on any of your details and to say thank you for your time we will send you 4 new E E light bulbs"

Are the EU going to go to everyones houses and replace the light fittings with no cost to us?? I don't think so and untill they're willing to do that they should leave us to make our own choices of lighting and what bulbs we use.

 

Just the fact that its the EU saying we have to change is enough to turn me against the idea.:D.

But in truth, I dont think it will make much difference to me, cant say I've heard them making any noise, but I do agree the light is different, more like flourecent light I think, probably less glaring.

Its the fact that we are yet again being dictated to, by what is largely a bunch of foreigners, as to what we can use and what we cant.

 

As a physicist I am fully aware of the dangers of global warming, and I believe that we are not taking it seriously enough. But I believe that we should be fighting it with condoms not light bulbs.

The problem is not really the light bulbs that we use, but the huge number of people that use them. Many countries, now including China, are actively trying to increase their population. So why are we bothering.

 

Peter, I agree entirely.:gnthb:

Any, green issues are a total waste of time and effort if no attempt to curb the world population is taken.

If an energy saving light bulb saves me a bit of money I might take part, but most of the other green issues, which involve me changing my lifestyle and COST me money, are just political juggling.

 

Personally, I think the EU Stinks and we should pull out of it. Take a look at a lot more of their ideas in the past that are just so utterly stupid? If we told them they had to do something they disapproved of, they'd throw it out.

As for changing to energy saving bulbs, what about all the Floodlights at e.g., Football grounds, with the power they take? Are They going to be made to use energy saving bulbs? Has anybody from the EU actually proved they are better and going to save money, while they are so expensive and the power companies have upped the cost of electricity? Fortunately for us, we had every one of ours given us, but had we had to pay, they would have cost the earth.

 

Sorry all to complicated for me I just scratch my head whilst my wife picks out the right bulb from the hundreds in the shop..... And steady the chair for her as she fits it !!

 

Couldn't agree more with you. But try telling that to developing nations whose population believe many children is a sign of prosperity and virility, and the Catholic Church refusing to sanction birth control.

The EU is rapidly turning into a dinosaur, really only benefiting the bureaucrats who run it. Time to leave and to forge closer links to the Commonwealth countries (India for example).

 

I had a Good e-mail this morning that would be apt on this thread, so if I remember, I will copy it, then paste on here.
:hehe:

 

Fancy the EU insisting we use bulbs that use a lot less energy, save us money and are more environmentally friendly.

Old bulbs are old technology. You dont complain about the EU insisting motor cars meet modern standards, or maybe we should all go back to cars based on the model T