butternut squash pumpkin and tomatoe help

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  1. zebraone11

    zebraone11 Apprentice Gardener

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    i have a butternut squash and a big max pumpkin and wondered if i can grow them in pots instead of the ground,,if so what size pots should i use and how do i water them,,would i need to keep the soil moist all the time...
    my tomatoes are just flowering ...i think i read that i need to take off anything that is growing below the bottom flower...is that true....thanks a lot in advance for any advice..
     
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    Squashes & pumpkins are really 'hungry' feeders, they put their roots down a long way so I would guess you would need big pots and constantly water/feed them once established. I would plant in the ground if you have space (they do need a lot of space). Yes they do need to be kept moist all the time, they are very bad at recovering from drying out, but in the soil there is much less chance of them drying out.

    Re: tomatoes, I would not take any of the lower leaves off just yet unless you have them groiwng really close together i.e. touching each other.
     
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    I do take the bottom leaves off and I am convinced it is beneficial to the tomato development. I read a couple of times that, as long as there are plenty of leaves still for healthy growth of the plant those extra ones at the bottom will not be diverting goodness that could be going into the tomato development instead.
    I'm probably wrong, but it keeps me happy and gives me something to do on a rainy weekend:)
     
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    Lab: I'm sure it makes very little difference. I take the bottom leaves off a bit later in the season; mainly to help air circulate and prevent mildew (I grow mine in a greenhouse) - I do remove any that look yellow or withered at any time.
     
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    According to the 'experts' the leaves should be taken off below the first truss once the tomatoes have formed on the truss.

    I take them off when I get around to it :). Like John, I take them off if they are looking tatty or mildewed or if they are getting in the way :D :D. They sometimes get in the way and make it difficult for me to water the plants. Then they are removed even if the trusses haven't set. :)
     
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    Likewise, I remove any yellow leaves as I think the plant is saying that it has finished with them, which is usually working from the bottom upwards. I don't think I have removed any so far, and like to thin out the plants to get more air in, and also makes it more easy to see the whitefly, and more difficult for them to hide. So I tend to take the opportunity when the white fly attack, (mainly in the greenhouse) and pull off some of the leaves that are covered with whitefly and kill 2 birds with one stone.

    I find tomato plants very adaptable and seem to be able to take any amount of punishment, just so long as you don't remove too many leaves of course!

    IMHO
     
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    I have a truss on one of my tomatoe plants growing outside that has 24 young toms on it!
    Is that good.. please tell me that is a good result.
    Capney
     
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    capney: yes it is good - depends on the variety, you will get lots more on the smaller cherry type toms such as Gardeners Delight.
     
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    Hope I get the picture right this time.
    Intitled "My big truss"
    Capney[​IMG]
     
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    I also remove all the yellow leaves from the bottom upwards with toms. As an incidental benefit, this gives room to plant some basil in the soil around the base of the stems - it helps shade the soil from the sun, which is good in a greenhouse, and basil goes really well with tomatoes.... :)

    cheers,
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    i think the added air circulation by removing the bottm leaves is benificialfrom the pest point of view.

    Ahh! I seem to have become a member. I must say 'tho being a junior at the age of 59 was flattering:D:D
     
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    :thumb: I too remove the lower leaves as & when to start with & then later when trusses set, I make sure the lower leaves are off below 1st truss..:thumb:


    :rolleyes::D As for the Butternut, not sure how you are all fairing but I seem to be getting all male flowers again as the temps are rather low.. I do hope it warms up a bit so that some female flowers come otherwise I think there is only one squash to a vine this year...!!!!:eek::rolleyes: Come on sunshine...!!!!;):D
     
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    Wasn´t this thread about squash? lol

    Anyway, My gradnpa has been growing tomatoes for more than sixty years and never took any leaves from them unless they were dead leaves, and I stick to that.
     
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    Have you tried the other way Shiney, as I also take leaves to the first truss
     
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    Hi coub, usually from this time of year I gradually take the leaves off below each truss as the toms start to ripen so, by late in the season, there are no leaves on the bottom half of the plants. This way I tend to remove the leaves that would be dying or getting mildew before they get to that stage, but I don't have a set programme for doing it. I do it when I get around to it. :thumb: :)
     
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