Bye Bye Beans

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  1. shiney

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    Our benas have finished for this year and they gave us a really good season of prolific, extremely tasty, beans.

    Thank you beans :gnthb:



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    I'm now clearing up their growing area. During the winter we shall roll back the membrane and dig compost in. Then roll the membrane back down again. We haven't needed to weed this area for seven years :thumb:.


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    Lovely lot of bean foliage you have there Shiney,:yez:Do you compost it or do you burn it?:)
     
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    it's been a good year for beans Shiney.
    I grew some climbing french beans and some dwarf french beans.
    The dwarf beans came nice and early and gave a surprisingly big crop.
    Like yours, they're finished now.
    I think beans give the best crop you can get per square yard and they can be grown in containers if looked after.
     
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    Does that apply to runner beans as well Alice? I've never grown them before due to lack of space, but if they can be grown in containers...
     
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    Yes Sussexgardener. I used to grow them in a container before I had a proper kitchen garden.
    I had a container about 2' x 2' and about 15" deep.
    I filled it with the richest mixture I could make - compost & that dried manure stuff. Beans are greedy feeders.
    I put 4 canes in at the corners and tied them into a wigwam and planted 2 beans to each cane.
    Keep the container well watered and pick the runner beans reguarly.
    You'll get lots and lots - and the flowers are pretty too.
     
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    Hi Kandy,
    It gets burned as I already have more than enough green stuff to compost. We are quite fussy now about what goes on the compost heaps as the local council will take away garden rubbish. All the weeds go in the bin and anything that is too tough or hard to compost easily. We wheel the bin around the garden whilst we are working so all the weeds get dumped straight into it. We fill two wheelie bins each week, the compost heaps (three of them about 6' x 4' and 4' high) are kept topped up and we burn all the heavier or bulkier stuff regularly.

    Aaron, as Alice says, lots of feed and water and you should find them to be very succesful. If you are able to get to us next open day I can keep some plants aside for you as they sell out quite quickly. It's not worth buying a packet of seed, usually 35+ per packet, if you don't need that many. :thumb:

    Alice, I agree that beans seem to be the best crop per sq yard but, technically, it is bananas. :hehe:
     
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    Thank you Alice and Shiney, a few good idea there for me to consider.

    I've also been thinking about converting a small section of the chicken run to grow them, fencing it off from the chickens though! The bed would be well enriched from years of chicken droppings and if I fwence it off now I can add to it over winter. From a quick google, it seems they like sunlight, but are also not averse to partial shade.

    I do the same Shiney - we have a brilliant council collection of 'green' garden waste, once a fortnight, so I can leave the compost bin for kichen waste. All weeds, grass cuttings and plants that get cut back or disposed of go in the council bin. Very convenient.
     
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    Aaron, the plants are quite happy in partial shade as long as they have warmth and plenty of water. The sunshine is only important from the point of view of getting the bees to pollinate them.

    French beans tend to be self-pollinating but only the newer varieties of runner beans are semi self-pollinating (some claim to be fully self-pollinating but I'm not so sure). If you have plenty of plants in the garden to attract the bees then there will never be a problem although some early flowers on the beans may occur before many bees are around. There are also some species of bee that find it difficult to get inside the flower so they pierce a hole through the base of the flower to get the nectar and the flower doesn't get pollinated. If you are really anxious to get a head start you can hand pollinate. Once the plants start producing beans they grow like mad :gnthb:.
     
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    Beans still flowering in west bay, despite 2 frosts.
     
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    Shiney that is some heap, didn't you do well.

    Well done Ziggy, keeping them going this long.
     
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    I think we may have topped 500 lbs this year :yho:. We ate a lot, gave some away to people who could do with them and sold over 350 lb for our charity.
     
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    You're a good person Shiney.

    Just luck John, only special thing I did to em was to bang 2 girt posts either side to stop the storms taking em out. They bowed but stayed up this year.:thumb:

    Sorry to hijack the thread for a second, John will understand, being a fellow Guilfordian, but I was fishing West bay beach last night with another angler, he said I looked familiar so we swapped pasts & found guildford in common, he asked my name & immediatley said " I know you" Turned out we had an ex girlfriend in common. He asked if I remembered Becky & before I had a chance to reply he said he had had carnal knowledge of her. Didn't quite know how to tell him we were married. Good thing I don't care anymore:old:

    Right, hijack over, back to beans, far less hassle.:tnp:

    Did I mention I'm thinking about purple podded french beans next year, so I can spot the pods easier ?
     
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    500 lbs of beans! I don't think I managed 5 lbs this year shiney, that is going some - well done.

    Ziggy, you can't trust guildfordians you know.
     
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    We haven't done as well this year with our beans despite using a fresh piece of ground this year.Mr Kandy sowed four seeds to each cane with fresh seed and even the extra ones he sowed we only had one of them come up.There were gaps in the middle canes and some of the plants started growing,then when they were half way up the canes they went all weak and didn't do much,most strange:(

    We had a few that were covered with blackfly at one point so I had to go round collecting the ladybirds from off the plot to get rid of them as I don't like spraying:D

    The plants eventually picked up and we are still picking a few with more tiny ones that are growing on and we still have flowers on the plants,so for us it hasn't been a good year although we have enough in the freezer to keep us going:yez:

    I usually start the seeds off at home,but for two years had very strong winds when I was hardening them off so ended up losing them and having to re sow so for the last couple of years we have grown them in situ:D

    I put it down to the dodgy weather we have had this year and better luck next year:yez:
     
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    John,
    I think that one of the secrets is watering them at the right time. As we have so many plants I have to water them with a sprinkler and that is on for four hours at a time. They get this twice a week unless there has been very heavy rain.
    If it has been very hot and dry they still only get watered twice a week but for six hours. Frequent but lesser waterings doesn't help them as it doesn't encourage the roots to go down deeper. Hand watering would require about one to two gallons per plant.

    Kandy,
    We start our seeds off in the greenhouse as we can't take the chance on not knowing whether they will come up in the garden. We don't bother much with hardening them off - too many to lug in and out of the greenhouse.
    Usually we grow about 500 plants because a lot of people now buy them from us on open day. By that time (end of May) they wouldn't need hardening off but if you plant them early it would help them to be hardened off. Beans are pretty tough little b*ggers :D.
    There was an enormous amount of blackfly this year but I hosed them down regularly. Any leaves that had loads of blackfly I just snipped off and put on the bonfire.
     
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