Camellia help please

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  1. Fat Controller

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    Some of you may recall nearer the start of the year I posted a photo of a camellia that is in my back garden, and didn't seem to be doing too well.

    I got some great advice (as always) which suggested that it was suffering from a lack of water and in need of feeding; I have given it a bit of TLC, including putting some ericacious compost around its feet, however it still looks pretty poorly to me.

    I had a closer look at it the other day, and in short I am wondering if it is simply suffering from old age - the only foliage that it has is on the very ends of the branches, the rest of each branch is woody and bare.

    So, I am wondering what to do next?

    Do I hack it back to encourage new growth (if so, when)? Or has it had its day, and I should be planning how to get it out and find a replacement?

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    FC,
    I think some of the species are of a "sickly" nature and never look Top Notch. I am starting to allow myself to ermm. dispense wth things that no longer give me joy in the garden and replace them with fresh , young specimens that cannot wait to entertain,
    Is this shrub really worthy of your anguish?
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    Given the flowers that it didn't really give last spring (especially when compared to the pretty one in the front garden), its currently not worthy of much to be honest - - however, it has quite a trunk on it at the bottom, and has obviously been rooted there for years, so I reckon there could be a hell of a lot of grief to oik him out.

    The other consideration that I have, is that the property is rented - although I seriously doubt that my landlady would object to me hauling a poorly shrub out and replacing it with something newer/better.
     
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    Good news dear Heart! Camellias are a doddle to dig out - they have a very shallow root system which is quite compact. As we've had no rain for a week or so? it would be prudent to wait until the fork won't snap in your hands. So many, mnay lovely Camellias have been created nowadays, you won't have much trouble falling in love with a replacement,
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      Thanks Jenny :)

      Just need to save my pennies up then :) - I might treat myself to the orange scented shrub that I was looking at a couple of months back, and then fill the rest with tree lilies :)
       
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      I'd go for it FC. I don't think your landlady will have a problem, after all she's gaining a new plant! :)
       
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      To be honest Sheal, I don't think she would notice, and even if she did she would likely be happy - she is really lovely, and as long as we are happy she is happy; she knows that we are looking after the place.
       
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        I wouldn't pull it out personally, but I would give it a good prune back to regenerate it. Give it a feed with Miracle Gro slow release pellets for ericaceous plants in spring and although it won't flower next year, it should reward you the following year.

        If I lived nearer I'd take it off your hands.
         
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          How hard would you prune it, because even if I give it a moderate hair cut, it is going to be a naked stick? Also, when?
           
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          Have a look here - I'd take it back by half. You can either do this in spring after it's flowered or, given that you aren't getting much in the way of blooms, you could do it in autumn. It wouldn't flower next year but will instead put all its energy into producing new growth.
           
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          I might be wrong but it looks like its made some good shiny new dark green leaves this season.
          I'd hang on to it, they dont grow that fast especially if they are growing in poor conditions, what you have done this year seems to have worked, are there any flower buds starting to show?

          The branches are bare at the back because that's where the leaves fell off when it was not happy, they are unlikely to regrow, but new growth will cover that up in a year or so.

          You could cut it back, but I would be inclined to wait until April or May, and only cut hard back 50%, that way you might still get a few flowers the following year.
           
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            Thanks :) - no buds at all that I can see. I suppose I have got nothing to lose by waiting to next year and giving it a trim.
             
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