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  1. Tetti

    Tetti Apprentice Gardener

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    Hi, I’ve recently moved house (and country) and very new to gardening.
    Does anyone know what they are please?
    They grow all over the place and have extremely long roots.
    If anyone could give it a name and how I can get rid of it I’d be very grateful. Thank you!
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      Just run it through the PlantNet program I have - which identifies it as Pentaglottis Sempervirens too.

      A quick search for removal of it online makes it sound like it is a bit of a chore unfortunately, deep digging and remove all traces of roots. Or else weedkiller.

      Weeds and Their Control: Green Alkanet (Pentaglottis sempervirens)
       
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        We have the Alkanet family growing wild here, mostly the blue.
         
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          As far as I am aware the flowers only come in blue. No other colour.
          It is the only sp in Pentaglottis.
          Quote wiki....

          "Pentaglottis is a monotypic genus of flowering plants in the family Boraginaceae. It is represented by a single species, Pentaglottis sempervirens, commonly known as the green alkanet,[1] evergreen bugloss[2] or alkanet,"

          Pentaglottis - Wikipedia PENTAGLOTTIS  SEMPERVIRENS 31-05-2013 10-43-16.JPG PENTAGLOTTIS  SEMPERVIRENS 31-05-2013 10-46-24.JPG
           
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            Certainly looks like Alkanet. We have lots in our garden. Difficult to dig out but that's how we keep it under control (sort of).

            It's relatives in the Borage family tend to have slightly different leaves.
            Viper's Bugloss (Echium pininana) tends to have thinner and longer leaves with less spots.
            Borage officinalis tends to have wider and rougher edged leaves.

            I stand to be corrected by @Silver surfer :) :love30:
             
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              You cannot beat the experience of knowing the id features of plants.
              Which involves many details....
              e.g.County it is found in, where it is growing, size, deciduous or evergreen, opposite or alternate leaves, leaf size and shape, vein patterns, flower shape, number of petals, seed pods, berries, bark etc etc.

              I have often wondered how good these id apps actually are.
              I still have several unidentified plants pics from previous years.
              So I tried this app.
              It provided just one suggestion.
              On further investigation it was not a match./not close.

              So my comments are check/check and check again.
              apps and individuals, can and do get it wrong.....myself included!
               
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                Many thanks for the replies everyone.
                Well, it's time to buy a big shovel then!
                 
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                  Absolutely. Experience and common sense will beat computers every time!
                   
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                    You may find a fork works better.
                    A spade will cut roots, which may re grow.
                    Use a fork to go down as deep as possible, gently wiggle it back and fore to loosen the soil.
                    Get a grip on the base of the plant and very gently pull.
                    To get ALL the roots.
                    Slow work.
                    Good luck.
                     
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                      I agree. some we know who is a gardening enthusiast has a good app for his phone. He tried it around our garden and it got about 80% correct, 10% wrong and 10% unknown. Not a bad percentage but it would rarely, or never, beat posting a photo on here :thumbsup:.

                      My problem, nowadays, is actually bring the name to mind! :old: I know the plant but just can't bring the name up. :doh:
                       
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