Cannibalisation of old polytunnel

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    My new polytunnel has been delivered, and no doubt will be assembled over the next few days; however, I am reluctant to completely waste the old polytunel, and thought I could make something of it - particularly as I have wood knocking about in the shed.

    In my head, I have the idea that I could do one of two things (bearing in mind that the zips are completely knackered, and there are some holes that would want patching):

    - Split the frame by taking the top half off (the curved upper section), and then make use of the bottom half by joining it together to make a square section, low level tunnel (although I am concerned that this might be too wide, and the sides could be a pain to form

    - Split the bottom half of the frame to make two narrower, triangle section tunnels that are more of a cloche than anything else.

    I've done some very quick (and pretty poor) diagrams to show the bits I would use:

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    Remove the top section above (green)
    Poly2.png
    The remaining frame, rejoined (with wooden bracing) and flipped

    Or the second, cloche option: Poly3.png
    Advice, comments, suggestions etc all gratefully received. :)


    I'd also appreciate advice on what would be suitable to grow under these, bearing in mind that the crops will also have to be happy in pots or re-usable growbags which have a depth of about five or six inches.
     
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      Those polycloche things would grow some quick turnaround perpetual spinach I would think? Still not too late to sow and grow some lettuce?
      I'm not a veggie grower FC but I look forward to our more experienced comrades' suggestions.
      Gosh, you really are fired up and full of 2013 ideas - good on you !! :dbgrtmb:
       
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        Having finally (a little late in the season I know) managed to finish getting the large tunnel up, my thoughts are turning to what can I do with the little one at the allotment. It's only a little tunnel that we aquired from freecycle last year, but it's been very useful in learning a little of polytunnel life before the big build at home was complete. The cover has a small number of holes that would need patching, all of the mesh covering the vent windows is nearly gone, but the zips work fine! My initial though was to recover (looks like polythene would be about £50 from First Tunnels where my large one came from), build a door a one end, and build a ventable window at the other end.
         
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        I really don't want to see it go to waste, as its only six months old - sadly, I have since found that this particular brand of polytunnel seem to have a really bad name for zip failures; in fairness, the weather this year has been the most damaging thing, although having to move the tunnel to get the fence replaced also didn't help.

        I'm also determined to learn from this years mistakes (which include rubbish lettuce and radishes), and get some decent food coming out of the garden. Its going to take a bit of graft, particularly at the start of the year, but that will settle quickly to watering and feeding, and I think that it will be worth it in the long run - hell, I might even save a few quid once everything gets going.

        I'm not overly bothered if I don't start growing anything in them until next year - indeed, I might well make the modifications and construction of them my winter project - but I would like to press whatever into service early on next year.

        Sounds like a good idea - I just couldn't cope with two full size tunnels (Mrs C would disown me for a start!)
         
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        Thankfully the missus approved the idea of the big tunnel (14' x 30') for chillies, providing she can squeeze a few things in. The fun starts now working out where to put the permanent beds in it!
        So with a supply of mushroom trays, they are an ideal way to work it out!

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        The baby tunnel at the allotment is nothing in comparison, just really handy to have, even when it's looking like a jungle in there!

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          14' x 30' for chillies! Good grief - I have seven chilli plants on two windowsills in the house and I am over-run with the things! I take it you sell them or something?
           
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          That's part of the master plan!
          Always nice to have a hobby that can bring in a few extra quid.
          That's why the big tunnels in the garden, selling from the allotment is a big no-no.
          For the past few years we've played with unusual fruit and veg, along with chillies. So that's the direction. I've been selling chilli seeds for a year now, which has been okay. Slowly putting together a website (www.chillimad.co.uk) but summer (the dry day!) has been more a time for allotmenteering than web development, so hopefully the darker nights will see that come together.
           
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            Good luck! You're off to a flying start with a huge poly like that.

            Website seems to work well too, apart from the 'no stock' issue that you are working on :) I've bookmarked, so you may well be getting an order from me in the future :)
             
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            Yeah, I just need to find the time to sit down and load everything in, or at least the majority before I set it fully going. One of my first orders was for 'Exploding Cucumbers' from a guy in the States, which was a little unexpected. Never thought I'd be going international in my first month of the site been online!
            If you order anything in the future, just let me know and I'll sort you out a little deal.:yahoo:
             
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              Thanks :)

              I like to hear of people getting ahead with a good business idea - especially those who put in the graft and genuinely want to do well by their customers.

              In fact, more and more I am going to independent businesses with my custom, simply because I am tired of feeling that I am getting 'tucked up' by bigger businesses - and I can't be alone in feeling like that.
               
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                FC, can you not just re-cover the old frame and continue to use, or is the new tunnel going to be erected on the old tunnels site?

                If re-covering with plastic is not an option how about covering in mesh/netting and using as a walk in brassica frame?...or a fruit cage?

                Steve...:)
                 
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                  FC: Do you over winter stuff? You could use the old frame in, say, a garage covered with bubble wrap to keep tender plants, Dahlia tubers, and so on, frost free.

                  I think for anything else you need a made-to-fit cover, otherwise the wind will get under one corner and rip it off ...

                  Tarpaulin cover and out-of-the-way corner for a make-shift shed?
                   
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                  Not really, many tunnels covers are just oversize and then trenched in down the sides, and gathered in at the ends, stapled/pinned to the doorway and trenched in also. This well and truly anchors it.

                  Steve...:)
                   
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                  Indeed, I agree with that Steve, but not sure that was what is planned?

                  Normal tunnels are "hoop shaped" which allows good tension to be achieved. Not sure that the envisaged flat-top or upside-down "W "will achieve that ...

                  ... but I'm jumping to assumptions ...

                  FC: How are you planning to "attach" the cover ?
                   
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                  I've no space to keep the frame in its entirety, and going by my experiences with the replacement blowaway today, it appears that recovering it won't really solve my pro
                  I can't cover it with the normal poly film as used by the 'proper' polytunnels, simply because it has to stand on a patio - I can only hold the edges down with bricks, and have no way of building a wooden door frame either (well, not without making a frame for the whole front of the thing.

                  Sorry, my diagrams were really poor :oopss: - my idea was to use the V-shaped section of the frame, braced with modified cross-members made from other bits of the frame, and then use cable ties to attach the cover to the frame once relatively tight. My intention then was to use the upside down V-shaped cover to simply plonk over stuff as a sort of lift-off cloche?
                   
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