Cats how to chase/eliminate visits

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  1. Jack McHammocklashing

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    I have Five cats, now invading my garden (well it is not a garden yet, I have only just become a Gardener)

    I have just moved a shed and intend to place a greenhouse there, but these cats have appeared, scratching on the new fresh soil (I do not like cats I prefer dogs)
    they are can I say digging and crapping piles on the new earth and the smell of TCP is terrible, They are spraying everything, my plastic 4x2 is stinking of TCP

    Any suggestions how to deter them apart from getting a dog

    Are cats classed as vermin?
    I have searched the www, and several expensive answers, but would prefer to start at the end of the journey, with experience on here

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    Hi Jack, my mum swears by used tea bags soaked in Jeyes Fluid (neat not watered down), she then just scatters the tea bags around her garden; especially where she doesn't want cats and it does seem to keep them away until the tea bags get washed out with rain and then she just replaces them...:thumb:

    I know there is another specifically made cat deterrant that I have used too thats a green gel; you just squeeze the bottle and small bits of gel come out, that has a citronella type smell. It seems to work ok'ish', but washes out quickly....
     
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    ANOTHER cat thread?!

    I have a similar problem so have sympathy. There's no panacea so try everything until you find something that works for your garden visitors. I've come to the conclusion that the cats will dump anywhere they find open and uncompacted soil so either cover anywhere recently prepared or plant loads of plants.

    As mentioned there is a chemical to spread about but it washes away in the rain and is pricey (and I'm not convinced it works anyway!); there are also available sonic scarers, again, mixed reports on these.

    Oh, and no, they're not classed as vermin!
     
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    WoW. another Keep away cat thread. I have nine cats, three of which come and go in the house. And as many of you know I have many huge gardens. All these issues I've read on on these many threads about cats damage I've never suffered. In fact I find them of value, they keep my mice, chipmuck and rabbit population down. Those latter three will hurt my gardens more than cats.
    Yes, mine do spray on the trees, and so what. And I am sure they are weeing & and pooping somewhere on the property. But with all the digging I do, never ran across any yuck issues.

    And thank goodness they are not considered vermit. What the problem is is not the cats, but the humans, who don't get them fixed, who let them just over breed and who do not take care of them so they have to wander elsewhere. If you have a "no kill cat program in your area" one that believes in fixing and releasing then call them.
    My cats are a product of this, and I kept them, because I have the room, and its a safe environment for them.
     
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      Oh dear the old chestnut is rolled out again... :rolleyespink:

      :sunny: Go to your supermarket Jack & buy a few tubs of ground WHITE pepper & sprinkle it liberally on your fresh dug soil & wherever the cats go.. That is supposed to work well.. Also a quick squirt from a hose pipe or water pistol/gun that the kids play with is also effective & the water pistol is to hand..!! :WINK1:
       
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      I was going to suggest Jeyes fluid too, it doubles up as a Badger deterent.

      Trouble is, if you don't have Badgers in the first place, you'd never know if its working:DOH:

      Don't know if its a coincidence but i've not had any cat mess on the home plot this year since i've been using Zoo Poo as a fertilizer.

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        Hello Redstar. Oh dear. The cat thing again. Perhaps there should be a separate section entitled 'anti-cat spleen' where the cat haters can get it off their chest.

        Here, a recent thread on foxes has moved on to rabbits and the damage they do; it seems some forum members are lucky to have any plants at all after the bunnies had had their fill. (Before anyone tries to tell me that this is 'nature', whereas the cats shouldn't be here, rabbits where introduced to Britain either by the Romans or the Normans; academics can't decide which.) Yet cats are given a very hard time and it seems acceptable to say things about them which no one would dream of saying about most other animals, especially dogs. The problem is, of course, that cats are only domesticated on their own terms and tend to wander. Mind you, they don't leave steaming piles of mess on the pavements, bark all day or sniff butts either, but this is nothing in the eyes (and nostrils) of a cat loather who has just had his neat regiment of French marigolds rearranged into a more abstract and fragrant composition.

        I live in an area in which there are pet cats are everywhere. A fair proportion of them end up in my little back garden as I'm one of the few people who still has patches of soil rather than solid paving. Sometimes I get a little fed up; enough to reach for a small water squirter when I see yet another feline sharpening its claws on garden fence or digging up young plants. But it's really a very small annoyance in the scheme of things. At the risk of boring forum members who have heard me tell my tale, Ancient Mariner-like, over and over again, two years ago the Ministry of Justice in its wisdom saw fit to turn the little Victorian house next to us into an unsupervised bail hostel. Now that, I suggest, is a real worry. One big enough to put a few cat turds into perspective. Fortunately my home life has now returned to some semblance of peace and order. And while I might whinge about the various visitors to my garden from time to time, I wouldn't dream of doing anything nasty to any of them. I don't really understand people who do.
         
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          Home Bargains sell 'Get Off My Garden' which is a gel like some people above have already said, and their price is 99p, so a few of these will probably last you awhile & since I started using it, I probably haven't had a single cat poop in either of my gardens (I've used it since about April).
           
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          Redstar, with respect, you have large gardens so the cats are not likely to wander further afield. Many of us have smaller gardens, and in my case I find the neighbouring cats tend to make use of my garden in preference to their own.
          There are a lot of cats in my neighbourhood, five living next door but one, and I've been plagued by them since the departure of my dog. They don't even bother with soil any more but just poop on my lawns.

          I shouldn't have to clear up after other peoples animals, like everybody else that finds this a problem. It's about time restrictions were put on cats as with dogs!

          Armandii, here on GC, seems to be the only one that has his cats under control and once again I thank him for showing respect for his neighbours property with regards this nuisance.
           
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          I disslike cats with a passion, they are the only pet you can own in the uk where the owners think you should accept them coming in and crapping in your garden, its an antisocial animal for sure, they SMELL for fact, sure you can go buy that green jell, it does work until washed out by rain, I dont know of any other pet/domestic animal that peeps think you (not the owner) should spend money to keep them from YOUR OWN GARDEN, so I got me a dog:cool: a Jack Russell, he's two now, cats dont stay long in my garden anymore, and this year I finaly have frogs back in the garden:cool: and the dog works as a bird scarrer as well, tho when I spot a bird helping itself I just tell him there's a "cat" n off he runs looking n growling:yess:
           
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          It's probably not just cats that poop in people's gardens, but they always get the blame.

          Dogs poo all over pavements with no shame, and before a few years ago, their owners didn't even have to pick it up! At least cats try and cover what they did up, albeit, not always done the best way..
           
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          I wonder, then, what we should do about foxes, which poop absolutely everywhere and leave their highly scented pee in strategic positions around the garden to boot. Shoot them or poison them perhaps, along with everything else which doesn't behave quite as we'd like. By and large, you can't stop cats from wandering (my own ancient cat is an exception, being content to venture no further than my terrace) so you'd have to ban people from keeping them as pets completely. They'd then become feral and a much greater nuisance. I suppose the cat hater's answer would be to have a major extermination programme and eradicate them completely.

          Gardeners have to clear up after all manner of things because gardens are artificial, completely unnatural constructions. We don't want poop. We want our own pets, but we don't want other people to have them. We do want wildlife, but only if if it is cute, doesn't excrete too much and doesn't eat our plants. Slugs and snails don't count as wildlife. Nor, it seems, do magpies and their ilk because they eat the cute things. I am beginning to find the idea of an untended wilderness, far from the Homebase Outdoor Living oiled teak tables, the regimented bedding plants and the neat lawns strangely attractive. :)
           
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          You can stop cats from wandering, Armandii has done it. I wouldn't be cruel to any cat even though they give me problems, or any wildlife for that matter. I live with anything that ventures into my garden including slugs and snails. But you can define cat poop by it's smell, if a dog was to continually wander into your garden and do the same, I'm sure you would have something to say about it.
           
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          How has he stopped it wandering, by caging it or chopping its legs off?

          I like dogs, but they cause nuisance in other ways. Last Friday, while freshly done up in an expensive designer skirt for a special occasion, a mutt decided to pay me rather a lot of unwanted attention. I was waiting for a train at the time. Afterwards I realised that my skirt was covered in dog drool and muck. Public places are full of dog mess and I once had to live next door to a pooch which got left alone in the house all day and amused itself by howling its head off and launching itself at the front door. But I'm well aware that it's pointless to argue in this way and in the end not terribly good for one's state of mind. Off to do some nice, soothing yoga.
           
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          That has nothing to do with cats or dogs, this is to do with bad owners, its more about live and let live, my dog does'nt go into peeps gardens and does'nt poop on the pavement, he's been trained so he's does'nt miff peeps off, the thing is with cats you cant do that.
          I dont think you can draw "other" wild animals into a debate about domestic pets that the guy/girl across the road choose to get, however talking about the wild Feline problem, the RSPCA on their tv doc said that 50% of wild cats are carrying Feline AIDS now, and yes, need to be destroyed, this has been brought about by owners not getting their cats "done".
           
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