Cedrus deodara

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  1. Royster

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    I recently started working for a client who mistakenly planted a Cedrus deodara infront of her living room window, thinking it would spread rather than grow to a whopping 50 metres or so in height :D Pretty funny really, sure you agree...?

    Anyhow, the tree must be... 5 years old and has had the central leader removed and is indeed pretty prostrate at the moment.

    I am wondering though - is it maybe possible to rootball this cracker of a tree and pop it into a large pot and kind-of semi Bonsai the thing? It would be a big task to say the least but I feel its well worth a go. Anyone seen the like of this before please?

    Many thanks!
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    Evening, Roy. The Cedrus deodara is, as you indicate, not for the small garden to say the least!

    I have been doing Bonsai for about 15 years and I'm not sure about this. You say it's abut 5 years old ... they grow about a foot a year for the first ten years, so can we assume it's 5 foot or less? Is it the common one or the "Aurea" which turns golden in the Autumn? If it's the latter, then I think it may have a better chance in a pot ... but, then again, I've not done one! [​IMG]
     
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    I'd give it a go, Roy. You sound like you know what you're doing - and it certanly can't stay where it is!!

    I don't think I'd go for the bonsai bit, though - if they haven't got anywhere suitable, I'd suggest they give up on it altogether and go for a smaller specimen if they really want a conifer - there are plenty of them!!

    Have fun digging it up!! :rolleyes: If you're not going to re-home it - use a mattock!! You could have a private word with Plant with a Pickaxe about that..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
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  5. Royster

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    L of L, its the plain deodara rather the 'Aurea' but I would think it to be around 5 years - its more like 5 feet wide than 5 feet tall due to the leader being removed.

    Dendrobium, problem being that the owner was given the tree as a present so is not going to be happy about not trying something. The garden is not big enough for it though so I'm still thinking big pot if I can get the thing out of the ground. I used to rootball 10 year old pines when working at Edinburgh Uni so know all about the pickaxe bit!! :rolleyes:

    I'll let you know how things progress...

    Kind regards
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    Does the owner have somewhere that she (or he, but sounds like a she...) could donate it to, and could go and visit it???? Seriously - I don't see how you can do anything in a small garden with something as potentially enormous as a deodara! I love them - but not in a small garden! :rolleyes:
     
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    I'd be very interested to see whether this survived/ thrived if dug up and root pruned as for a bonsai- theoretically I don't see why it shouldn't work- unless anyone knows better!
    [​IMG]
    If the tap root is to be removed it would make shifting it a lot easier, too!
     
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    Hi Dendrobium and Liz and thanks for your replies!
    I did originally explain to the lady that the deodara very possibly may pop its clogs if lifted but she was willing to give it a go. Apart from giving it to someone else, which of course is a good suggestion, the only other option is to pot up and just see what happens. Maybe it would be a first if I potted up but I'm thinking that regardless of where it goes when lifted it just ain't going to survive.

    I should be there in that garden today (Sunday) but eck, its Sunday and one day off a week is okay surely? Furthermore, I had a bit too much [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] last night and so shall spend much of today enjoying myself on G.C. and recuperating and having another [​IMG] or 2.

    Cheers!
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    And you can still spell things like "furthermore"!! Can't have had that much, Roy!

    I do tend to gree - survival isn't exactly guaranteed (the deodara, I mean - not you!! :D
     
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    I'm a Scotsman through and through so we can drink a skinful as someone said or "they" say, Dendrobium. But then, you know what I mean, being in West Lothian.
    After the amount I've drunk in the past week I don't think its the deodara's survival thats in question here after all! :D

    Enjoy your evening and have a [​IMG] on me!

    Cheers!
    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

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    Need to put in a special request for pics showing different types of booze - I never drink beer - and if I hd my usual red wine in that form and those quantities, I'd be as tired as a newt!! [​IMG]

    I see my wholly subjective preconceived idea was right, though - she IS a she!! Hope the tree survives, and I'm sure you'll give it your best shot. Good luck with, Roy - but don't have TOO many of the [​IMG] or you'll be too [​IMG] and probably [​IMG]
     
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    Its good to have a laugh Dendrobium and I'm having one right now - thanks indeed for that post!! :D

    Sure, red wine is a passion of mine too but I do get the hangover big time if consumed in large quantities [​IMG]

    May I quote you on "I'd be as tired as a newt!! [whistle]".

    I've never heard that saying before Dendrobe but I have heard "as pissed as the proverbial newt" [​IMG] [​IMG]

    And another quote - "I see my wholly subjective preconceived idea was right, though - she IS a she!!"
    Indeed, she is a SHE! I know you and Jazid (I believe it was) discussed this matter at some length recently here on G.C., much, once again, to my amusement - and no disrespect intended!

    Sure, I will be in this particular garden tomorrow but you are right I best not indulge too much in the [​IMG] or else I may well be [​IMG]

    Nice one!!!

    Kindest regards!
    Royster [​IMG]
     
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