Chamaerops

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  1. Sirius

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    Hi All,

    The Gardeners Club in Crews Hill, Enfield, have these Chamerops for sale - £50.
    I thought it was quite cheap.

    The plant must be about 5ft tall.
    The trunk is about 1ft.

    I imagine that these are from Spain, or maybe the Canaries.
    My concern is that the new foliage next year won't be nearly as tall under our conditions.

    Any thoughts?

    I goto 2.
    One for me, and one for the in-laws. This is their one.

    Thanks
     
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    nice palm! .... just make sure that you wrap it in winter if the temps drop below -10 degrees C
     
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      Thanks.
      Hopefully this winter won't be as bad as the previous 2 we have had!
       
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      I had A Chamy H Cerifera spear pull after a couple of -8/9cs last winter, even the side shoots went too and it is supposed to be as hardy.
      I don't think the new fronds will grow as tall here either and over time it will eventually be a more compact plant.
       
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      If it has a foot tall stem and no suckers I'd definitely go for it.

      Mine has far too many side shoots and no main stem.

      £50 is a good price, but after what we have had as a summer I think I would keep it in the pot for one more season, perhaps pot it on to a few sizes larger, and hope you dont need to move it undercover next winter.
       
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      I have 2 Chamaerops in my garden already, although both much smaller than this one. They both came through the last 2 winters unprotected, with some leaf damage, but it is growing out.
      These are both green.

      The plant in the photo in my original post has a silvery sheen. From seeing various plants, it seems to me that the silver form suffered less leaf damage over winter than the green ones.
      Has anyone else noticed this?
       
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      it could be a chamaerops cerifa (which has a silvery blue colour foilage, and which is hardier than the normal one):

      http://www.hardy-palms.co.uk/product.asp?section=22&product=38

      yours looks a bit stretched though (happens when nurseries place them in their pots very close to each other to force growth (they grow taller quicker, searching for the light)

      I have only ever planted 2 chamaerops, and I prefer Trachycarpus fortunei or if it's a windy spot, I plant Trachycarpus wagnerianus
       
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      dim,

      This one is in a sheltered sunny spot. So it should do well there.
      Do you feed your palms?
       
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      you have planted it in the correct position (they like full sun) ...

      I fertilze all my plants (including palms) on a regular basis during the growing season (I stop fertilizing the palms in the beginning of october, so as to harden them for the winter)

      I use organic ferts from the hydroponic store, but many people use these 2 products for their palms with very good results:

      palmbooster:
      http://www.hardy-palms.co.uk/product.asp?section=14&product=6

      soluble palm fertilizer:
      http://www.hardy-palms.co.uk/product.asp?section=15&product=9

      a regular foliar feed of seaweed will also benefit them
       
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      Yes but that plant looks very soft, the leaf stalks are long in comparison to the leaf size, which suggests, as *dim* says, the plant has been forced.
      Those fronds will be very tender come next winter.
       
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      Guys I`m gone leave this forum soon as any time I`m looking at it , is costing me money , my local nursery have a complete 50% of and look at this.
      this Chamerops was £5
      [​IMG]
      Chamerops cerifera £1.50
      [​IMG]
      A really big chemerops was actually at £30 and it was huge.
      I think will keep them in the greenhouse for the first year and then plant in the soil.
       
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        Sal,
        The plant in the 2nd photo looks like something different??
         
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        it say chamaerops humilis cerifera and it should look like this one day .
        [​IMG]
        apparently they are really slow grow palm , but for now they cost £1.50 each , got 2 of them and don`t know where to plant them : )
         
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        for £1.50 each, i'd find room. that was a major bargain!
         
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          Al n , I have to admit that I`m really luck that I`ve found that garden center , with the sale on it would worth even for you to travel over here , last January got a massive bargain , 4 and half feet tree fern for £45 , trachy palm for £25 (see my garden pictures) and all the bamboo at £12.50 and a 4 feet cordy for £15.
           
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