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Climbing rose not flowering

Discussion in 'Roses' started by Snorky85, Jul 2, 2017.

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    Hi, wondering if anyone knows if this is normal....

    Bought a climbing iceberg rose from David Austin and it's growing great up the trellis but no sign of any buds for flowering. Is this normal for the first year?!

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      Has it been pruned at all this year Snorky as it doesn't look very well trained ?
      Also, I wouldn't have put it behind the trellis as there won't be enough room for the stems to thicken. It should really be tied in to the front of the trellising.
       
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        It was brought as two stalks bare root type plant in feb and so hasn't needed pruning as there werent any stalks to prune. Followed all david austin advice and used mycorrhizal fungi and their food, horsemanure etc.

        Didnt realise it couldnt be trained through the trellis! The trellis stand about and inch off the wall where I've trained it through.
         
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        Snorky, concentrate on the plant growth this year......although it prob will flower this year.
        Agree with earlier comment......the stems should be tied in not fed through the trellis so I would pull them off and do just that. You will need to prune back as the stems will be damaged.
        Roses are not like clematis where you could allow the stems to entwine with the trellis :)
         
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          Thanks @Verdun Shame i'll have to pull it all out! :sad: Hopefully they will grow back ok this season?!
           
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          Being such a young plant @Snorky85 it may be concentrating on growth especially as it's been fed well. I wouldn't feed it any more this year and in turn it may concentrate on producing some late flowers. A first year rose will not produce a great amount as it's still establishing itself and I usually give them three years to reach maturity and full bloom. :)
           
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            Good morning @Snorky85 its a lovely Rose,it should be this side of the trellis and it looks well trained to me,what are the dimensions of the container please,the depth is very important and what compost have you used my friend,:smile:and if it were me I wouldn't have under planted anything with the Rose(not in the first year anyway.this is only Woo's personal opinnion but I think it is possibly spoilt(David Austin's Fault)that's alright if you are going to plant your Rose in the ground,as for pruning I would never prune a climbing Rose for at least its first 2/3 years. Your rose must be away from the wall to get good air circulation which will prevent it getting fungal diseases.;):blue thumb:

            1.As far as I can see you have two options 1,carefully remove the trellis and gently pull the Rose
            away from the wall and then put the trellis back on the wall and the tie your Rose back on the trellis.
            2.If the canes are supple enough just gently pull them back through to this side of the trellis

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              Thanks @Beckie76 @wiseowl

              I'll try removing the stems carefully-they are still quite supple so fingers crossed.

              The pot is over a meter tall....specifically got a really deep one on DA's advice. Didnt even think the underplanting would be an issue!! Lol. Will follow your guide woo, and hope for the best. Thank you so much for your kind advice :)
               
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                It will probably be fingers pricked several times @Snorky85 :snorky:
                Lots of good information above on climbing roses , thanks everyone :blue thumb:
                 
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                  Good morning @Snorky85 my friend you are most welcome:smile:Most of the Iceberg Roses are thornless or almost thornless;)

                  Iceberg Climber
                  Parentage Robin Hood x Virgo
                  Kordes 1958
                  Syn: Climbing Fee des Neiges;
                  Cant UK 1968
                  Very disease resistant,Healthy,Robust,
                  National Rose Society Gold medal 1958/Baden BadenGold Medal 1958
                  Worlds Favourite Rose 1983
                  RHS Award of Garden merit 1993
                   
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                    Well I think this gave me disturbed sleep last night-kept thinking about it! Lol.

                    Been out and sorted it. Luckily all but one of the stems was supple enough to wiggle out withot damage and yes @HarryS suffered from a few prickles lol.

                    I've left only one stalk behind two bits of the trellis and then its trained on the front of the trellis. The stalk was too stiff to move and didnt want to snap it-it'll have to do. At least all the others are ok now :)

                    Do you think I should take out the lobelia?

                    @wiseowl I forgot to mention that I planted it using compost specific for roses-can't remember the brand now but recall I looked into it to make sure it was a good one.
                     

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                    This one had a few nasties at the base but the further away from the base there was hardly any!

                    Worlds Favourite Rose! :) I like that. Specifically picked this one as my Great Grandad (who was a VERY keen gardener) used to grow it. :)
                     
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