Common Sage Pruning

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    I have a common sage which is three years old. It flowered beautifully in its first year:

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    but since then hasn't bothered. When and how should I be pruning it to get it to flower again?
    Thanks :spinning:
     
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    I have had a Purple Sage at the bottom of my garden for around 20 years, and it tends to get a bit straggly so I prune it back hard in March and it comes back nicely every year. Try a little feed of Potash to encourage it to flower, Lorea:snork:
     
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      I would say prune after flowering, usually late June? But Armandii's experience is contradicting this.
       
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        You can be quite severe when pruning common sage. I usually take it right down to just a few young buds as close to the ground as I can find them. According to the books you can do it either in autumn or late winter/early spring. I usually choose the latter, just because sage being evergreen it keeps winter interest if you leave it til after winter. Once the old top growth is out of the way the young buds will rapidly produce vigorous new growth come spring time.
         
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          In my experience, once common sage flowers, it keeps on doing so for the rest of the year. I've had it flowering in december once:) As the flowers go over it helps to cut the whole flower stem off though, and then they just keep going and going. The bumblebees love it.
           
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            I think the problem here is that Lorea's Sage is not flowering. Madahhlia, so cutting it back in early Summer would not entice it to flower but might have the opposite effect. Giving a medium to hard prune in March will encourage the Sage to put out new growth and hopefully, with an occasional feed of Potash rich feed, entice it to flower.:hapydancsmil:
             
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            I've not grown sage for years, but I seem to remember mine flowered in late spring early summer, I think I used to cut it back after flowering.
            So I would say it flowers on last years growth, so cutting back in March would delay or even stop the plant flowering.:stirpot:

            Sorry just noticed this is in Spain, so it might well be winter flowering there.
             
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              Well, my Purple Sage must be out of phase as it will flower from August onwards and into the Winter. I don't grow mine for the flowers though, more for adding the leaves into casseroles, stews and meats [Not horse though:nonofinger: ]
               
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                I was thinking I might try giving it a hard prune in March as mine does not by any means flower abundantly but now I don't know!:dunno:

                Actually that figures, if Armandii's flowers in August (on new wood?) the early pruning must delay it, whereas I'd expect my (unpruned) one to flower in late May on old wood.

                So you pays yer money and you takes yer choice.
                 
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                That's probably because you cut it back in March, it is probably still getting enough moisture here to flower in August.
                Only guessing but Spain could well be a different proposition, much dryer by August and dormant.
                 
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                  Basque side of Spain is, I understand, just as soggy as the UK. Its the bit the holiday companies used to refer to as 'Green Spain' because apparently its lush there.
                   
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                    Wow! What a lot of information!! Thanks everyone! Yes, I am in 'Green Spain' - freezing in winter, boiling in summer! When it flowered it did it in May, and I think I cut it back afterwards, (can't remember exactly though :scratch: ), but since then...nada.
                    And now the big question is...what happened to my photo?? :dunno: Why is there a 'view attachment' link which doesn't work? I uploaded the photo into the message, and it was there before I clicked 'post'. Anyway it was a photo of the sage in flower with a bee on it. :sad: I'll try again:

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                    Oh, there it is! Yay! :hapydancsmil:
                    Now I'm totally confused about what to do about the sage though! :rolleyespink:
                    I think I might cut it back now, give it some potash (lots available from the fire), and see what happens...
                     
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                      The only sage.....apart from the "salvias" ......that flowered for me was salvia Tricolour. What a beautiful plant it then was for most of the summer. It flowered because it was not cut back the previous summer I think. Unless you cut back purple sage you lose it's intensity of leaf colour and it's bushyness.
                       
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                        Well if it's not flowering then I'd just get out and chop it now. I usually do the same as Armandii
                         
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